So your telling me every one on this forum in the past with a modified vehicle has had an engineers certificate, ther only guys I know that have gone that far where friends with 4 cylinder cars with big V8's in them.

Don't get me wrong and I'm not trying to be difficult it's just it seems like a big waste of time. Seriously who on this forum is going to get a engineer to certify there vehicle?

On the insurance issue I can imagine what our insurers will say when we tell them "my car now has 500hp instead of 340hp" VOID VOID or $6000 a year thankyou, so you don't tell them and try not get into a accident when your in fault., risky yes, but stuff paying a very high premium.

chrislak> You sound like a top shelf gambler so good luck to you.

I don't know what others have done but I have had engineers' reports done on vehicles I've modded in the past - and every day the beaurocracy is getting heavier on us all, so I would not suggest anybody take the gamble with their insurance company not finding out about mods - assessors are very astute and know exactly what to look for. Insurance is very competitive - these companies don't want to let go of even one dollar of the squillions they make every year, so if there is a way out of a claim then bye bye policy ...

Quick double it :D

Chrislak,

Modified vehicles are now becoming a big headache in both NSW and Victoria. Point is, the police, EPA or Road Traffic Authority can not only defect the car, they can and do enforce removal of non-standard parts from the car. In addition, insurance companies can simply walk away from a claim if the modified vehicle is not legally registered. I.e. does not have an engineer's certificate.

The insurance issue is very real; in fact I know of two substantial court cases where insurance companies have defended their position and won.

Bottom line is – you can put your head in the sand and hope the problem goes away, or tackle the problem head on – prove continued compliance to emission laws, then organise an engineer’s certificate and have complete peace of mind. The choice is up to every individual.

Peter

all of my cars that I have modified have been engineered. Very expensive exercise, but very worth it.

My XR6T will be no different. I have already spoken to my engineer about my wheels, brakes, pedals and steering wheel (yes, the GT wheel was not a factory fit) and I have also told my insurer about my mods too.

but I havent modded my motor yet, so emmisions havent changed. And I think that's the big problem here.

I understand fully what you guys are saying.

APS

So with your kits , are they EPA approved ? and if they are do we still need to get a engineers report ? Im confused any help would be appreciated Thanks

APS

So with your kits , are they EPA approved ? and if they are do we still need to get a engineers report ? Im confused any help would be appreciated Thanks

There is no such thing as “EPA approved”. – It is a matter of the vehicle owner being able to prove or demonstrate continued compliance to Australian Design Rules. An engineer’s certificate will fully certify that this is the case for a given vehicle. This topic is discussed in great detail, including how APS assists customers achieve 100% legality, on our web site:

Click here for information on keeping your XR6 Turbo road legal

Rainer

For those that are lucky enough to have full access to Autospeed, here is an article on the AVO stage one kit that sells for $3900 fitted. There is also some info on their website.

I would like to know if anybody has had the capa stg 1 kit fitted and dynoed what the fwklw and or rwklw really are ? CHEERS