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You"re f***n kiddin' right?

Is it 1984 ?

Does BB want to cut words out of that book thing that tells us what words mean ?

:spoton: Can someone explain this for me? :glad:

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The more facts & stats there are the better.

All the better to make an INFORMED desision.

Ps: At school we had to read George Orwell :)

It's a book about the dumbing down of society so that those in control can keep control through peoples ignorance and oppression.

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I don't quite see how a story about a group of animals who closely mirror a certain country at a certain point in history has anything to do with 400m times...

Ultimately the question was asking do people actually pay attention to the 400m times, or are these times simply recorded down as an out of interest thing... (Not trying to stir pots, or take swipes at people) and if no one pays attention to the 400m times of a stocky should mag's still be interested in posting the times...

Now I'd imagine that there are people who live by the 400m times as a lifestyle choice (I'm thinking here about some of the people on this site who live, eat and breath drag racing), so for them the 400m time of a stocky is probably a good benchmark for them to know how much their efforts have really paid off... (I myself am interested in them as it gives a benchmark to compare to when someone posts the times which they got)

Disclaimer - This is all IMHO...

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I will always think it is impressive when I read about a Enzo or a Bugatti running a 12 sec over the 400m, so I will have to say no, I dont want it to go.

The more information we, as buyers, are given, the better.

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Does it influence your decsion to buy one car over another soley? Not as part of the decision but as the ONLY reason?

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Wack a poll in Dallas it'll give a clearer picture as to the yea's and niegh's, at a guess there'll be more niegh's....

It comes with the whole package as Mick said the more info the better informed we are as a punters.

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400m times are a waste on me - but that's just me. Sure, I like to know what they are BUT they would never influence my purchasing decision. I'd rather know 60-100km/h and 80-120km/h times. I'd also like to know cornering forces a car can generate. And braking performance. Even the standing km time and terminal speed would be of interest - probably even more than 0-400m as there are so many variables that cause small differences between (the same models) cars over such a short distance. These variables I believe would not have as dramatic a change over the longer distance of 1km. It's a shame these aren't given. I believe they are in Europe.

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Does it influence your decsion to buy one car over another soley? Not as part of the decision but as the ONLY reason?

Anyone who bought one car over another only because of the 0 - 400 time is a few screwes loose IMO. There are many other things to consider as well as straight out performance, after all you are buying a ROAD car.

Having said that 0 - 400 time is one pices of information I use when looking at a car so yes it is still relevant but I doubt anyone would make that there deciding factor.

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The stupid thing is the 1/4 mile is 404meters they dont even run the cars over the full 1/4 mile.

I thought a 1/4 mile was 402.336m.

As already said I doubt that anyone buys a car only based on it's 0-100kmph or 0-400m times. But it is an interesting fact that a lot of people look at. All the magazine articles I've read have these times printed but they also get right into the handling and all round on road performance of the vehicles. That's why the FPV's are judged better everyday cars than the HSV.

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The stupid thing is the 1/4 mile is 404meters they dont even run the cars over the full 1/4 mile.

I thought a 1/4 mile was 402.336m.

As already said I doubt that anyone buys a car only based on it's 0-100kmph or 0-400m times. But it is an interesting fact that a lot of people look at. All the magazine articles I've read have these times printed but they also get right into the handling and all round on road performance of the vehicles. That's why the FPV's are judged better everyday cars than the HSV.

True, the 400m times are not the only thing people buy cars for.

There is the KW figure as well :spoton:

and fuel, seats, etc..

I'm selling a T with mods but not many options.

If I was looking to buy, the idea of mod's would be great but some prefer big wheels and leather seats.

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Most has been said already....

Would I buy on 0~400 m time alone..... answer NO.

But in reality, a car with a very fast 0-400 time, (around 14 seconds or less) generally has the benefits of a number of other performance enhancing goodies.

I bought my T, simply cause it FELT bloody quick, compared to the SS ute I was considering. ET's are probably very similar, but the "T" Felt MUCH quicker off the line due to its enormaous flat torque curve (or should I call that "flat torque plateau")

ET's are just one quantifiable performance indicator.

And it does help in bragging rights! :spoton:

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If you were looking to but a T say a second hand car and you have found a choice of 2 car's. Both are the same year same colour and same klms on the clock and the same extra option's e.g. leather,premium sound and brakes, now both of the car's are the same price. The only difference is one will run 400m in 14.4 sec and the other will run the 400m in 11.6 which one would you buy ?.

Now tell me if the 400m time makes a difference to you choice ?.

Dave :spoton:

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