Edit: Knock Sensors

[Mr X]

What are the advantages/disadvantages of tuning with knock sensors disabled.What can be acheived either way.Lots of conflicting stuff flying around all over the place so............for the guy buying an edit tune.Is it safe or safe only for track work or unsafe even then? What should the buyer know,what questions should the buyer be asking?

Can we clear up the confusion and get to a simple answer?Lots of prospective buyers need clarification.Thanks.

[Street Tuner]

Ok, since you ask I will throw my hat in the ring first...

To send an XR6T out with the knock sensors off requires the following attributes in a tuner -

1) Specifically tuning a large cammed 'noisy' aftermarket engine on race fuel for drag strip use

2) Making a mistake when tuning (turn off by accident)

3) Insanity

4) Lack of understanding of what they are doing or how an engine works

5) They run an engine rebuild shop as well and treat turning knock sensors off as a 'work creation scheme' for when the engine finally craps itself due to uncontrolled detonation

Edited 08/11/05 08:51 AM by Street Tuner

[jetute]

ok... how do you know if they are disabled if your car is not pinging?? I would like to know?

[F6 UTE]

HAHA... Geez u guys crack me up. One answer 3 minutes after the question was posted.......

Anyhoo, Mr X, what have you got done to achieve 240 rwkw, and do you have knock sensors enabled?? obviously your modified.. What tool was used to tune the car??

Cheers.

[philldub]

So would that be a NO on turning knock contoll off.

[Street Tuner]

I dont know MrX, but I figured the subject post was a stir and promptly typed an answer. No one would be stupid enough to attempt this kind of caper.

Right again Philldub RESOUNDING NO. Have a on me

Edited 08/11/05 08:56 AM by Street Tuner

[F6 UTE]

Ok, since you ask I will throw my hat in the ring first...

To send an XR6T out with the knock sensors off requires the following attributes in a tuner -

1) Specifically tuning a large cammed 'noisy' aftermarket engine on race fuel for drag strip use

2) Making a mistake when tuning (turn off by accident)

3) Insanity

4) Lack of understanding of what they are doing or how an engine works

5) They run an engine rebuild shop as well and treat turning knock sensors off as a 'work creation scheme' for when the engine finally craps itself due to uncontrolled detonation 

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Do Unichip tuners have control over turning knock sensors on/off??

What happens if a Unichip tuner sends an engine out pinging?? Will it self destruct?? or can they protect it to the extent of an edit tuner??

[Mr X]

I dont know MrX, but I figured the subject post was a stir and promptly typed an answer. No one would be stupid enough to attempt this kind of caper.

Right again Philldub RESOUNDING NO. Have a    on me 

Well, I'm asking because some people tell me its ok if you want just a little bit more grunt.I'm not an engineer like F6 you know, so if hundreds of people are happy with a knock sensor disabled tune,I want to know why!Just a worker trying to get a clear picture.

[Street Tuner]

I dont do it, or recommend it (turn the knock sensors off for road cars) so Im not the right person to ask

[F6 UTE]

HAHAH.

This is a cack.. ok, I'll bite..

So Tuner, if your not the right person to ask, why feel compelled to post up an answer a mere 3 minutes after it was posted?? Quick to sink the boot, or just helping out??

Mr X, you managed to avoid asking my question, and turn the subject back onto someone who has an idea.. Do you feel like answering the question? You don't have to.. Did you ask the same questions to your chosen tuner, with the chosen product???? You seem like a well informed gent, don't tell me this only crossed your mind in the last 30 mins or so???

Now, If hundreds ( ?? ) of ppl are happy with knock disabled tunes, did they ask if it was disabled?? Did they know it existed?? Did you ask hundreds of ppl?? Can you tell if it's enabled?? Did the tuner tune to safe paramaters as to not have to worry about knocking ( pinking ) ?? ( bad move, doesn't allow for a crap dose of fuel imo..... ) Did you personally ask your tuner??

Yes I asked both of my tuners about Knock sensors. Nick even showed me all of his tables. Yes I have asked Simon previously about Knock sensors. Yes I knew it existed, I researched the product before letting someone loose on my engine. No I didn't ask hundreds of ppl if they were happy, I don't give a stuff what they do to their engines, and everyones goals are different.