Herrod Exhaust

[JB]

My dad has a Herrod exhaust on his T and it sounds awesome. Some people may bag them but have a close look and they are extremely well made. Won't putting an APS exhaust on a stock T bring on overboost.

And your facts are derrived from where?

That's not actually the case. The APS system running a stock tune on a T does not bring in overboost.

Why would I know? I ran mine stock for a while with the exhaust on it and it ran beautifully, a little more power than stock with a beautiful note to match.

I'm tipping bang for buck your old man got ripped and his only claim to fame is the brand name on his car. Rob Herrod is a marketer and a very good one.

I was quoted $1650 for the Herrod cat back system, for $1800 I got the full APS system including dump pipe fitted. It would be the best looking and best quality system around. In cabin noise is pretty much non existent, not like alot of others around. And no I am no APS convert as many here will know, I just know a good product when I see it.

[macka'sxr6t]

Yeh, have to agree BP, $2400 sounds pretty step.  One thing that I don't understand is if Herrod exhausts are just rebadged from other manufacturer why do they have their own distinctive sound.  I have not heard any other exhaust options sound anywhere near the same as theirs.  On either a V8 or turbo.

Anyway, I just get sick of people bagging Herrods stuff just for the sake of having a go at them at any opportunity, especially on the tuning side.  I'd say by the look of the quality car they have outside and in their workshop they cater for some pretty well to do people with plenty of folding stuff to spend.  They would be people who are not concerned like a few on here about having the fastest car or probably even racing their car at all and concerntrate on having it look  . 

Next time you see a Herrod preped car, have a real good look at it then have a look at one that has been by joe blogs.  Its like comparing a T with a typhoon.  Chalk and Cheese.

So stop the bagging and get back on topic. 

I have a Herrod exhaust and would by another when the time comes. 

macka

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I agree Macka, Herrods are a very professional outfit and are probably the best marketers in the Ford aftermarket.

If you want a car that looks and sounds fast Herrod is for you. On the other hand if you want a car that actually go's fast or stops and handles Herrod's is not the place to go.

I personally would never use Herrod's because with a bit of research you'll get the same product at a much better price. This coupled with the fact that they can't tune are good reasons to go eleswhere in my book.

Geea.

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Yes they are one of, if not the most proffessional Ford aftermarket outfits going around. APS would be the only ones that would rival them and they are both experts in marketing their respective products. They are also one of the few places place that you can drive in and have all the work done in one place then drive out knowing the job has been done properly, without the hassle of having to run around and source everything you want done, just to save yourself a few beer tokens. I don't know about you but every minute or hour that I spend running around collecting mods is money I don't earn. Hence their success.

Like I said the mojority of Ford enthusists only want their cars to look and sound good and feel comfortable knowing that FOMOC allows them to use their mods with no warranty issues. You say that Herrods don't tune fast cars and this maybe the case. Maybe they are tuning to customers requests only wanting a modest increase in performance.

But where's the proof that Herrods Brembo brake packages are less efficient than Brembro brake packages from lets say for argument sake HPF or anywhere else.

It's pretty simple really, if you don't like them, don't use them. You should only bag them if you've had a bad experience with them or their products. I don't hear anyone complaining except for the people who don't have any of their products on their car.

macka

[macka'sxr6t]

My dad has a Herrod exhaust on his T and it sounds awesome. Some people may bag them but have a close look and they are extremely well made. Won't putting an APS exhaust on a stock T bring on overboost.

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And your facts are derrived from where?

That's not actually the case. The APS system running a stock tune on a T does not bring in overboost.

Why would I know? I ran mine stock for a while with the exhaust on it and it ran beautifully, a little more power than stock with a beautiful note to match.

I'm tipping bang for buck your old man got ripped and his only claim to fame is the brand name on his car. Rob Herrod is a marketer and a very good one.

I was quoted $1650 for the Herrod cat back system, for $1800 I got the full APS system including dump pipe fitted. It would be the best looking and best quality system around. In cabin noise is pretty much non existent, not like alot of others around. And no I am no APS convert as many here will know, I just know a good product when I see it.

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JB,

How long ago did you receive that quote? I've had my Herrod exhaust for over 12 months now and it only cost me $1200 fitted. Drive in 1/2 hour later drive out and I did'nt even have it booked in I was just there having a look and a chat to them. It was'nt that long ago you could'nt buy APS gear seperately has this changed and when? can you now source them or, was it an old APS dealer having a clean out of APS stock before he jumped ship to the Edit. And was $1800 a mates rate sale and everyone else pays the full price.

macka

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But where's the proof that Herrods Brembo brake packages are less efficient than Brembro brake packages from lets say for argument sake HPF or anywhere else. 

macka

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Not sure what sort of brakes they were but I remember a guy out at calder on the infield in the early days of the XR6T. He had paid mega bucks for some fancy brakes from Herrods and was very unhappy with them. I think he had them removed. that's not proof but its the only reference I have to go by.

I've also heard that Herrods used to install unichips for Ford dealers that didn't actually increase the cars performance. These were to make a customer feel that they had a quicker car without having any impact on the warrenty. Whether this is true or not I don't know.

I also know that the bloke from GT Movie fame used Herrods stuff and actually went slower when he had them install one of the first edits in his car. He was racing around the time I started and after spending siht loads of money was still not breaking 13.5.

This is and many other stories is what I have heard about Herrods. This compares with your first hand experience of a nice sounding exhaust on a car that never went quicker than 13.0.

Geea.

[Adam]

How long ago did you receive that quote?  I've had my Herrod exhaust for over 12 months now and it only cost me $1200 fitted.  Drive in 1/2 hour later drive out and I did'nt even have it booked in I was just there having a look and a chat to them.  It was'nt that long ago you could'nt buy APS gear seperately has this changed and when? can you now source them or, was it an old APS dealer having a clean out of APS stock before he jumped ship to the Edit.  And was $1800 a mates rate sale and everyone else pays the full price. 

The APS exhaust has been available on its own for quite some time and it's $1897 RRP incl GST. I rang them last friday so the info is about as current as it can be. To their credit the sales guy made sure that I knew all the details of the exhaust and what might happen if I put it on a standard car. Well done APS

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To their credit the sales guy made sure that I knew all the details of the exhaust and what might happen if I put it on a standard car. Well done APS

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Can you tell us what that may be??

[JB]

My dad has a Herrod exhaust on his T and it sounds awesome. Some people may bag them but have a close look and they are extremely well made. Won't putting an APS exhaust on a stock T bring on overboost.

And your facts are derrived from where?

That's not actually the case. The APS system running a stock tune on a T does not bring in overboost.

Why would I know? I ran mine stock for a while with the exhaust on it and it ran beautifully, a little more power than stock with a beautiful note to match.

I'm tipping bang for buck your old man got ripped and his only claim to fame is the brand name on his car. Rob Herrod is a marketer and a very good one.

I was quoted $1650 for the Herrod cat back system, for $1800 I got the full APS system including dump pipe fitted. It would be the best looking and best quality system around. In cabin noise is pretty much non existent, not like alot of others around. And no I am no APS convert as many here will know, I just know a good product when I see it.

JB,

How long ago did you receive that quote? I've had my Herrod exhaust for over 12 months now and it only cost me $1200 fitted. Drive in 1/2 hour later drive out and I did'nt even have it booked in I was just there having a look and a chat to them. It was'nt that long ago you could'nt buy APS gear seperately has this changed and when? can you now source them or, was it an old APS dealer having a clean out of APS stock before he jumped ship to the Edit. And was $1800 a mates rate sale and everyone else pays the full price.

macka

Yeah would be close to 12 months ago now macka. Was that the full exhaust though or cat back?

I got the APS zorst just by negotiating. He had a couple in stock ready to go, I said how much he said $1897 plus fitting. I asked what was the best price he could do, he gave it to me then I said $1800 cash and I will take one right now, he took the offer.Simple.

The APS gear has been available seperately for some time. I got that zorst around 12 months ago at least.

[JB]

But where's the proof that Herrods Brembo brake packages are less efficient than Brembro brake packages from lets say for argument sake HPF or anywhere else. 

macka

Not sure what sort of brakes they were but I remember a guy out at calder on the infield in the early days of the XR6T. He had paid mega bucks for some fancy brakes from Herrods and was very unhappy with them. I think he had them removed. that's not proof but its the only reference I have to go by.

I've also heard that Herrods used to install unichips for Ford dealers that didn't actually increase the cars performance. These were to make a customer feel that they had a quicker car without having any impact on the warrenty. Whether this is true or not I don't know.

I also know that the bloke from GT Movie fame used Herrods stuff and actually went slower when he had them install one of the first edits in his car. He was racing around the time I started and after spending siht loads of money was still not breaking 13.5.

This is and many other stories is what I have heard about Herrods. This compares with your first hand experience of a nice sounding exhaust on a car that never went quicker than 13.0.

Geea.

That guy Craig ended up going to SWMBO's Uncle (Race Brakes) parted with another few grand and ended up with a package he was very happy with, AP's I think they were.

Herrod's do not do Brembo's. Rob used to buy his brake packages from Race Brakes and rebrand them as well as changing some of the confirgurations which resulted in that business partnership dissolving as Herrod's would not listen to what they should run.

Cameron's GT, as well as many others who had edit, never got fast times as Craig said Cameron in particular went backwards with the more money he spent. I have spoken to numerous Edit customers including one in particular, who is in the Vic street utes(XR8). He was getting frustrated that the car was not cracking into the 13's even with the edit. He removed it and immediately started doing 13.8's and 13.6's. He got a retuned edit from another dealer and last time I heard was doing low 13's and looking very close to 12's, there are many other stories like this, that I am happy to quote.

Then we ask the age old question. "Name one quick Herrod Car?"

[Venom XR6]

My dad has a Herrod exhaust on his T and it sounds awesome. Some people may bag them but have a close look and they are extremely well made. Won't putting an APS exhaust on a stock T bring on overboost.

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And your facts are derrived from where?

That's not actually the case. The APS system running a stock tune on a T does not bring in overboost.

Why would I know? I ran mine stock for a while with the exhaust on it and it ran beautifully, a little more power than stock with a beautiful note to match.

I'm tipping bang for buck your old man got ripped and his only claim to fame is the brand name on his car. Rob Herrod is a marketer and a very good one.

I was quoted $1650 for the Herrod cat back system, for $1800 I got the full APS system including dump pipe fitted. It would be the best looking and best quality system around. In cabin noise is pretty much non existent, not like alot of others around. And no I am no APS convert as many here will know, I just know a good product when I see it.

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Read the post properly before you jump down my throat. Where did I state what I said was a fact. It was a question. I was under the impression if you put on an exhaust that is free flowing enough it will bring on overboost. I didn't say it would happen. All my dad wanted was a nice sound and that's what he got. He doesn't really care about how much power it makes, but it made about 10 kws more than other T's at a dyno day so he's happy. Not everyone wants 300kw. You can't deny they are well made.

I agree that Herrods aren't the best tuners out there.

[macka'sxr6t]

This compares with your first hand experience of a nice sounding exhaust on a car that never went quicker than 13.0.

Geea.

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Yeh, I suppose you can blame Herrods for that you seem to have ago at them with only hear say evidence, when ever you feel like it.

You were there and heard and seen what happened that night, so don't go bringing my car into the argument

macka