Just went to the specs page at www.newfalcon.com.au and the XR6T has T/C and LSD as standard options as before however the annotation stating that T/C was not available with LSD has been removed, BUT only from the Turbo This is driving me cRaZy.

that's good news Richdave.

My dealer told me last week after he spoke with the tech people at Ford that the turbo, whether auto or manual, will come with LSD AND TC. The brochure was incorrect. Since it has been corrected on the net just confirms this.

Good news, but interestingly, the XR8 still appears to have the "one or the other" rule applying.

Any thoughts why?

My dealer told me last week after he spoke with the tech people at Ford that the turbo, whether auto or manual, will come with LSD AND TC. The brochure was incorrect. Since it has been corrected on the net just confirms this.

Mondie, not sure how long you have been lurking in this forum, but this debate has raged since the forum started. We've heard every variation possible and one of our group - LionHeart has driven a Turbo and it apparently did not have T/C. I for one would like both but have resigned myself to only getting one so I'll specify T/C on my order. If LSD is there as well when it arrives, it will be a bonus. The pity of it all is that Ford should have cleared this up once and for all ages ago

Good news, but interestingly, the XR8 still appears to have the "one or the other" rule applying.

Any thoughts why?

I cant think of a reason why if it works on the Turbo it cant work on the V8

Ok, total newbie question: I've ordered a normal XR6, without either traction control or limited slip diff. Could someone please explain what these things are (in non-motorhead words, if possible) and which ones are available on the XR6 and which ones I should seriously consider ordering?

Ok, total newbie question: I've ordered a normal XR6, without either traction control or limited slip diff. Could someone please explain what these things are (in non-motorhead words, if possible) and which ones are available on the XR6 and which ones I should seriously consider ordering?

I'm assuming because of the electronic throttle control the way traction control works is that the moment slippage is felt through the rear wheels of the car the ACTUAL throttle is limited to the point where the wheels are no longer slipping - ie the throttle is electronically adjusted to be just on the limits of the rear tyres slipping irrespective of where your foot is on the accelerator. Note that in this scenario the power is reduced irrespective of which wheel is slipping - great for straight lines but if you're cornering enthusiastically it will actually limit the amount of power you can put down to both wheels.

A normal differential supplies the same amount of torque to both wheels - if one of those wheels happens to be on a slippery surface or loses traction because of the torque applied and the different speeds being seen by the inner and outer wheel, you'll end up with wheel spin on one side, resulting in an effective loss of power down onto the road. An LSD allows the torque to be channelled to the wheel that isn't slipping, allowing more power to get to the ground.

In an ideal situation, the Traction Control system of a car would be set up to come on slightly later, allowing the LSD initally to pick up the wheels spin of the inner wheel going around the corner and channeling more torque to the outer wheel, allowing more power to get to the ground. The Traction Control system would kick in slightly later when it detected a larger amount of wheel slip, allowing you to have a bit more fun by taking it closer to the limits before saving you.

For safety, Traction Control is the way to go, but if you enjoy driving enthusiastically, you'll want an LSD. A combination of both is the ideal and from the reviews of the XR6T I've read, it seemed to be consistent with having both fitted to a car (ie TCS coming on later to allow a bit of slip which would probably be so the LSD could do it's work)

Of course, I could be off the mark!

Thanks for that! I've added LSD to my order, but apparently you can't get traction control on a standard XR6, which is a tad annoying.

I personally don't see why anyone would choose TC over LSD.

For years cars have been fine without TC, and I've always found that in a car that has it, it 's horribly innacurate anyway and restricts your driving ability.

Honestly, if you need TC, then you're not the best of drivers.

But that's my opinion, nothing more. Feel free to flame me, but I'd be picking LSD (which helps handling anyway).

Yeah, I'm not too disappointed I can't get traction control. The LSD will be handy though.