both were bought brand new. I'd done just over 25,000kms in the last one. Year same, car same, apart from extra airbags, the transmission, and an extended warranty. I didn't want a second hand one, to be honest I didn't want to offload my car that (in my opinion) had issues on a potential member of this forum. It just didn't sit right with me. That why I did it, and I already love the new trans. It would have cost more than 7k to change from Manual to Auto, so I'll live with my choices. But please don't give me stick about it not being a Turbo, I respect all you guys on this forum and enjoy the banter, but this is the way it is.