plonky The Bionic Man - half man-half titanium Member 1,766 Member For: 22y 1m 15d Location: Dodge Scat Pack Posted 22/02/04 01:50 AM Share Posted 22/02/04 01:50 AM Ermmmmm............Who the hell is Miranda Divine????Sounds like the MC at Les Girls!!!! Miranda Devine and Piers Akerman are journalists for Sydney papers.They are both in the minority in media circles as they dare to write about commonsense and reason as opposed to the Leftist ideologues that make up the majority of the 'Arts' such as visual and print media.They are not always right (no one is I guess) but the majority of the time their comments are reasonable and rational and reflect the views of the vast silent majority in this country. Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/9241-redfern-riot/page/5/#findComment-95311 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redhawk ....Time to lay this fairytale aside...... Donating Members 2,657 Member For: 22y 2m 15d Gender: Male Location: In the Ferry on the River Styx, not getting out just yet! Posted 22/02/04 01:58 AM Share Posted 22/02/04 01:58 AM Thanks plonky,So her second job is MC at Les Girls Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/9241-redfern-riot/page/5/#findComment-95314 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tongueboy Member 457 Member For: 22y 1m 24d Gender: Male Location: Tamworth, Armidale NSW Posted 22/02/04 05:06 AM Share Posted 22/02/04 05:06 AM ....your joking about Piers Ackerman aren't you? Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/9241-redfern-riot/page/5/#findComment-95345 Share on other sites More sharing options...
plonky The Bionic Man - half man-half titanium Member 1,766 Member For: 22y 1m 15d Location: Dodge Scat Pack Posted 22/02/04 06:12 AM Share Posted 22/02/04 06:12 AM ....your joking about Piers Ackerman aren't you? Not at all!!I thoroughly respect Piers. As a matter of fact he would be the first to admit that in his younger 'idealistic' days he was very committed to the ideological "left".He realised, through exposure to what was 'actually' going on in the world, that the was more interested in basic commonsense, the role of the democracy, the lies perpertrated by the Leftist propagandists in the print and visual media that have only presented information that is palatable to their view.Example: Greenpeace has protested and physically blocked shipments of GM corn (the same corn used to make cereal that is eaten by US citizens) entering Zimbabwe.The protest is noble in it's thought, however what Greenpeace has done is unforgiveable: By refusing foreign aid because the corn is genetically modified, the population of Zimbabwe is denied foreign food donated to them, thus allowing the citizens to die of starvation. It furthers strengthens the hold on Robert Mugabes dictatorship as he is now the sole source of food, power etc in that country and shows that Greenpeace is a supporter of Mugabe's Stalinist style of regime.However, the only information the general press release is that GM food is being denied entry into Zimbabwe. Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/9241-redfern-riot/page/5/#findComment-95370 Share on other sites More sharing options...
DallasQLD Lifetime Members 1,197 Member For: 22y 5m 19d Gender: Male Location: Albany Creek QLD Posted 22/02/04 08:59 AM Share Posted 22/02/04 08:59 AM A great article on this topic in todays Sunday Mail (Brisbane paper) Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/9241-redfern-riot/page/5/#findComment-95411 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Here since the start... Lifetime Members 10,282 Member For: 22y 29d Gender: Male Location: Victoria Posted 22/02/04 11:58 PM Share Posted 22/02/04 11:58 PM Alxr6t, I am sorry I sounded like I offended u. I have the enviable position in life of time to read a lot of articles and stuff on the web which many other ppl do not have. I have read into this a fair bit, and I was attempting to clarify your question of "I wonder if he had just commited a crime'. Thomas Hickey was a known felon. At no time has it been suggested that police were chasing him for an offence that was just committed. If he was running from the police for no reason (apart from being a known felon) then it was all a terrible accident, and should have been treated as such by the minority that decided to riot on sunday night.Anyhow, if they were up all night rioting etc, how on earth did they expect to get to work on time on monday morning, with being so tired AND the trains being in chaos as well?TICAndrew It's cool! Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/9241-redfern-riot/page/5/#findComment-95520 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macktheknife Xtreme Xalted Member Donating Members 3,112 Member For: 22y 19d Gender: Male Location: BrisVegas Posted 23/02/04 01:46 AM Share Posted 23/02/04 01:46 AM Hmmm.All very interesting comments and opinions. I wish had the time to input all that I feel about the subject. However, for what it's worth, the summarised version of the Macka view.1. I'm very tolerant and respective of all race, creed, colour, religion, socio-economic position, place of abode, etc etc.2. I'm not so tolerant of people who do not share my tolerance. ie, bigots.3. I agree with the vast majority of respected indiginous leaders, that the welfare dependance state, created by successive governments (in other words, all of us voting public) has created a monster for which there is no short term solution.4. Untill the long term solutions that are beginning to grow roots are given the time to evolve and work, only tollerance by all will assist in getting things over the line.So, if you (yes that's right....YOU) want to be a positive contributor to the continuing development of Australia and ALL Australians, take a good hard look at what you really are like and with complete honesty, make a decision to remove all (even slightly) predudicial words, thoughts and comments from your life.I can guarantee this. Not one government policy, not one "do-gooder" system, not one indiginous hero, not one statesman, nothing, nil, zip, zero, zilch, will work without each of us doing our bit to adopt and engender, tollerance for all things different.Wouldn't it be great if "Worlds Greatest Tollerance" was added to all the other thing that make Australia and Australians so fantastic? Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/9241-redfern-riot/page/5/#findComment-95570 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cul08r Guests Posted 23/02/04 03:05 AM Share Posted 23/02/04 03:05 AM Top work Mackthe... Andrew Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/9241-redfern-riot/page/5/#findComment-95596 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcos Member 289 Member For: 21y 6m 14d Location: Central Coast NSW Posted 23/02/04 11:44 AM Share Posted 23/02/04 11:44 AM TJ stacked his bike and fell on a fence. No one is responsible for that action but him. May he rest in peace. Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/9241-redfern-riot/page/5/#findComment-95812 Share on other sites More sharing options...
plonky The Bionic Man - half man-half titanium Member 1,766 Member For: 22y 1m 15d Location: Dodge Scat Pack Posted 23/02/04 10:55 PM Share Posted 23/02/04 10:55 PM Hmmm.All very interesting comments and opinions. I wish had the time to input all that I feel about the subject. However, for what it's worth, the summarised version of the Macka view.1. I'm very tolerant and respective of all race, creed, colour, religion, socio-economic position, place of abode, etc etc.2. I'm not so tolerant of people who do not share my tolerance. ie, bigots.3. I agree with the vast majority of respected indiginous leaders, that the welfare dependance state, created by successive governments (in other words, all of us voting public) has created a monster for which there is no short term solution.4. Untill the long term solutions that are beginning to grow roots are given the time to evolve and work, only tollerance by all will assist in getting things over the line.So, if you (yes that's right....YOU) want to be a positive contributor to the continuing development of Australia and ALL Australians, take a good hard look at what you really are like and with complete honesty, make a decision to remove all (even slightly) predudicial words, thoughts and comments from your life.I can guarantee this. Not one government policy, not one "do-gooder" system, not one indiginous hero, not one statesman, nothing, nil, zip, zero, zilch, will work without each of us doing our bit to adopt and engender, tollerance for all things different.Wouldn't it be great if "Worlds Greatest Tollerance" was added to all the other thing that make Australia and Australians so fantastic? Well said MackYou must remember though, the more we define or seperate individual cultures the more intolerant EVERYBODY becomes. The only way to go forward is to adopt the dominant culture.After all, this is the way it had been happening for thousands and thousands of years prior to this whole multicultural disaster occurred in the revolutionist sixties.Do you see tribes of Angles, Franks, Normans, Danes, Saxons, Romans, Grecians etc STILL crapping on about stuff that happened yesterday. After all yesterday is yesterday, not tomorrow!There is no point tolerating everybody else if YOUR culture (the dominant democratic, Christian, European culture in Australia) is not tolerated and you have to sacrifice you views, morals and behaviours to accomodate the intolerant minority.Rome was still Rome with the Roman culture even though they ruled half the known world and their populace was made up of many many different races.The same in Greece.The same in Britain.The same in America.This comes back to the fundamentals of democracy where the INDIVIDUAL is paramount. The individual makes or breaks his way in the world.Group Proportionalism is rooted in Marxist/Leninist theory where a group of people (woman, ethnic minorities, etc) are viewed as members of the group and treated as such by way of specific legislation etc whether they have the personal merit or not.I will work with anyone, be friends with anyone regardles of colour, sexual preference etc is they have earned their position by merit (not because they are of a minority group) or because they have the same/similar values in a democratic society where the MAJORITY makes the decision, not an intellectual minority legislating a decision. Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/9241-redfern-riot/page/5/#findComment-95905 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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