Rhino1980 09JET Member 1,510 Member For: 15y 10m 20d Gender: Male Location: E. Maitland Posted 16/12/09 08:35 AM Share Posted 16/12/09 08:35 AM Benny's got some of the best results for the amount of money outlaid. I also reckon he had the smartest upgrade path. C and V is CV performance in Sydney, they're site sponsor and have been around for yonks. The pipe is an alloy pipe that replaces the rubber one before the intercooler, which is designed to burst when boost is raised. An SCT3 is a flash tuner. For 2K I would go the pipe, SCT and a custom tune. That would pretty much run out 1800 bucks.Hi flow cats aren't that dear, they can be had for around $300. Yes you will need to tune if you fit one up. Your exhaust will need modifications which will cost dough. Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/64377-first-mods-for-fg-xr6-turbo/page/2/#findComment-963685 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buf-Phoon loitering with intent Lifetime Members 13,318 Member For: 21y 8m 21d Gender: Male Location: Zombie Birdhouse Posted 16/12/09 08:37 AM Share Posted 16/12/09 08:37 AM wf $2000 for a cat is an absolute rip. You can get a whole custom mild steel turbo back for that price.60lb Dekas which will more than adequately fuel your needs are available from Rapd System for around $ 450. Go check his site as I am about to meet some female company for dinner.A custom tune is a must do IMO partcularly where hardware mods are concerned need to be tuned to suit . Can't do this without some dyno time. Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/64377-first-mods-for-fg-xr6-turbo/page/2/#findComment-963686 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkayne Member 203 Member For: 16y 4m 8d Gender: Male Posted 16/12/09 08:46 AM Author Share Posted 16/12/09 08:46 AM (edited) wf $2000 for a cat is an absolute rip. You can get a whole custom mild steel turbo back for that price.Sorry, what I meant was the whole exhaust system for $2k. I was wondering how much it would cost just for the CAT and I guess the labour work to mount it on to the current FG exhaust..A custom tune is a must do IMO partcularly where hardware mods are concerned need to be tuned to suit . Can't do this without some dyno time.Custom tune is a definite. Since the car's AFR is already quite rich (10-10.5), raising that to 12-12.5 would be my first option for better fuel economy and power apparently. So I will get a tune regardless.60lb Dekas which will more than adequately fuel your needs are available from Rapd System for around $ 450. Go check his site as I am about to meet some female company for dinner.With the fuel injectors, what will they do other than pump more fuel to the engine? Are they needed, and will they see $450 worth of a power increase?An SCT3 is a flash tuner. For 2K I would go the pipe, SCT and a custom tune. That would pretty much run out 1800 bucks.So, what's the difference between SCT3 and VCM? If SCT3 is a flash tuner, then why would I also need a VCM custom tune? Wouldn't it be one or the other? I'll have a look into the pipe. I've been in contact with CV performance before about ordering their quad exhaust system, but unfortunately, 2.4grand + delivery to the middle of Australia would have turned my wallet upside down. Edited 16/12/09 08:57 AM by Arkayne Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/64377-first-mods-for-fg-xr6-turbo/page/2/#findComment-963691 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhino1980 09JET Member 1,510 Member For: 15y 10m 20d Gender: Male Location: E. Maitland Posted 16/12/09 08:54 AM Share Posted 16/12/09 08:54 AM (edited) An SCT is just the unit that allows the ECU to be "flashed" with new fuel/ignition maps. The custom tune, is the process of a workshop strapping her onto the dyno and tuning her for you with your shiny new SCT. You can get an SCT with a generic tune already in it but VCM, don't know anything about it sorry mate. Edited 16/12/09 08:55 AM by Rhino1980 Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/64377-first-mods-for-fg-xr6-turbo/page/2/#findComment-963695 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkayne Member 203 Member For: 16y 4m 8d Gender: Male Posted 16/12/09 09:00 AM Author Share Posted 16/12/09 09:00 AM (edited) An SCT is just the unit that allows the ECU to be "flashed" with new fuel/ignition maps. The custom tune, is the process of a workshop strapping her onto the dyno and tuning her for you with your shiny new SCT. You can get an SCT with a generic tune already in it but VCM, don't know anything about it sorry mate.Since the flash tuner itself seems around the cost of just a custom tune, I'll see what other's say about VCM before buying the unit (it's not required anyway I believe, since the VCM tune downloads right into the car's memory from what I've been told). Unfortunately, the only tuner here only does VCM, though he does have CAPA software as well, he just prefers VCM as it automatically adjusts to firmware upgrades from Ford.Hopefully someone who's done a VCM tune or knows what VCM Suite tunes are can clear things up though. Edited 16/12/09 09:06 AM by Arkayne Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/64377-first-mods-for-fg-xr6-turbo/page/2/#findComment-963699 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhino1980 09JET Member 1,510 Member For: 15y 10m 20d Gender: Male Location: E. Maitland Posted 16/12/09 09:08 AM Share Posted 16/12/09 09:08 AM (edited) since the VCM tune downloads right into the car's memory from what I've been told)Exactly what the capa box and the SCT do mate. Or do you mean with VCM you don't have to buy a unit as well? If you're tuner prefers VCM then it's probably best to go with it. Edited 16/12/09 09:10 AM by Rhino1980 Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/64377-first-mods-for-fg-xr6-turbo/page/2/#findComment-963702 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkayne Member 203 Member For: 16y 4m 8d Gender: Male Posted 16/12/09 09:28 AM Author Share Posted 16/12/09 09:28 AM (edited) Exactly what the capa box and the SCT do mate. Or do you mean with VCM you don't have to buy a unit as well? If you're tuner prefers VCM then it's probably best to go with it.VCM doesn't require me to buy a unit. He's already got that so all he'll do is custom tune and then download it to the car. I don't get to keep the box, thus don't have to pay for it. Edited 16/12/09 09:28 AM by Arkayne Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/64377-first-mods-for-fg-xr6-turbo/page/2/#findComment-963709 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhino1980 09JET Member 1,510 Member For: 15y 10m 20d Gender: Male Location: E. Maitland Posted 16/12/09 09:35 AM Share Posted 16/12/09 09:35 AM Thanks mate. Good luck Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/64377-first-mods-for-fg-xr6-turbo/page/2/#findComment-963714 Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnricoPalazzo Member 84 Member For: 19y 8m 22d Posted 16/12/09 10:02 AM Share Posted 16/12/09 10:02 AM Hi I will add my 2cs and hopefully this will assist you.The airbox or airfilter changes have not proven consistent results and as such, I would not bother with either. I myself have an xr8 airbox on my fg f6 and am not sure if it made any difference to overall power.I think for your money, you should opt for hi flow cat ($3-400 installed usually), the CV intercooler pipe chnage so you dont burst your stock pipe with increased boost, and a custom tune.Then once you are needing more power, I would upgrade the intercooler ($2000) and add injectors ($450).The standard exhaust with a hiflow cat is quiet good and with the smaller turbo on the xr6t, you wont really need to replace it.The big thing I think you should consider is looking at other tuners who have alot of experience with fgs. They are a different kettle of fish to ba/bfs and a tuner who knows their tricks can get alot more out of them then a tuner brand new to them.Where abouts are you located? Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/64377-first-mods-for-fg-xr6-turbo/page/2/#findComment-963734 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkayne Member 203 Member For: 16y 4m 8d Gender: Male Posted 16/12/09 12:02 PM Author Share Posted 16/12/09 12:02 PM Thanks for the input! PHANTMXR6 replied to my other topic saying he gained 11rwkw out of the snorkle, but I guess more air intake never hurts, even without the increase in power. Definitely want a CAT back, hopefully add a bit more noise to it. If I install the CAT back, is it OK to still remove the centre muffler? Or better to leave it?So the intercooler pipe will definitely need replacing, right? There's no way around it if you tune and increase your boost?Where abouts are you located?Unfortunately, I live in Alice Springs. So there's only 1 tuner here. I can't afford (both finance and to take time off work) to go to Adelaide or Darwin to get it tuned. Since they're the closest places to Alice Springs with decent tuners (KPM Auto I've heard great things about), but still atleast a 14-16 hour drive. Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/64377-first-mods-for-fg-xr6-turbo/page/2/#findComment-963756 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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