5 Speed Box Whine

[RubyXR6T]

Hey guys,

I have an 04 xr6t, and it has developed a serious whine.

On start up, being hot or cold, you can hear it. Press the clutch in and it goes away.

You hear the whine slow down when selecting 1st, but take off the whine becomes really loud.

You hear the same slow down whine into 2nd, then again loud, same again into 3rd, then once again really loud, then when selecting 4th, no noise at all! But once you go for 5th, the whine comes straight back. I have had the box in and out a few times, had every bearing replaced, had the shafts checked with a dial indicator, changed the oil, had the preload and end float tolerance set different specs, and nothing has changed.

Before I got someone to start working on it, I contacted ford, and they told me they could fix it but it would be between 1800-3000 to get done. I asked if ford would help cover the costs, but they said no because I had not had regular servicing with a ford dealer. Can anyone tell me at what service do they service the gearbox? I decided to get a local mechanic to do the work for me, he contacted a few ford service techs, they helped at the start, but now they are telling him that this noise is normal in all 5 speed gearboxs.

Does anyone have, or had, this problem, is there anything I have missed out in checking or changing?

Cheers

Ruby

[ZAP]

If the car has been regularly serviced by a Mechanic, I would take the car back to ford and say FIX IT or put their reasoning in writing. I am sure Trade practices and the MTA would be interested in their statement as it is incorrect.

If you have not had it regularly logbook serviced, then you will not have a good chance.

As for the whine, I think you might find it is the clutch throw out bearing as it goes away once the clutch is in. I am a bit rusty with my mechanics, but this is what I remember.

The 5 speed is a crappy gearbox at the best of times, as they are under specced for the T.

[senna_T]

[RubyXR6T]

If it was the clucth throw out bearing, I would expect it to be noisy with the clutch pressed.

Also, there is no whine when in forth gear, when in 4th, the input and output shafts are rotating at the same speeds, so when in another gear or in neutral they will be turning at different speeds which is when the noise starts, this sorta hints it must be inside the gearbox.

I might head down to ford tomorrow, and take a manual for a drive and comment on how quiet the box seems to be. See what they say, ie. make them eat their own words.

[RIP'S_PATCHES!]

mate I had the exact same problem with my t5 before I converted to a t56. the issue is not the clutch, its actually the input shaft and counter shaft bearings! with the t5, especially when u put abit of power behind them the gearbox doesnt have constant lubrication to those bearings which are located to the front of the box, which causes them to run dry! when dry they start making noises through all gears except fourth coz 4th is a straight cut gear! it doesnt cost much to fix, if u have warranty your laughing, but make sure u overfill it with oil when u change the oil in it after fix!

[6speedXR8]

Hey guys,

I have an 04 xr6t, and it has developed a serious whine.

On start up, being hot or cold, you can hear it. Press the clutch in and it goes away.

You hear the whine slow down when selecting 1st, but take off the whine becomes really loud.

You hear the same slow down whine into 2nd, then again loud, same again into 3rd, then once again really loud, then when selecting 4th, no noise at all! But once you go for 5th, the whine comes straight back. I have had the box in and out a few times, had every bearing replaced, had the shafts checked with a dial indicator, changed the oil, had the preload and end float tolerance set different specs, and nothing has changed.

Before I got someone to start working on it, I contacted ford, and they told me they could fix it but it would be between 1800-3000 to get done. I asked if ford would help cover the costs, but they said no because I had not had regular servicing with a ford dealer. Can anyone tell me at what service do they service the gearbox? I decided to get a local mechanic to do the work for me, he contacted a few ford service techs, they helped at the start, but now they are telling him that this noise is normal in all 5 speed gearboxs.

Does anyone have, or had, this problem, is there anything I have missed out in checking or changing?

Is your car still standard or have you done upgrades to increase the power? The T5 will need a complete rebuild or you will need to consider a T56. Mal

Edited 24/09/07 09:31 AM by 6speedXR8

[RubyXR6T]

Ok, im still stuck between a rock and a hard place.

Went to ford today, they listened and said it could be fixed. They will take it out and send it to someone.

Spoke to the local mechanic, and he wants it back, sounds like he had an idea he wants to try.

I've got still no idea on what it could be, I have got some different psi tunes for it, but the thing does it even with stock tune, unfortunately im starting to come to terms with it being in the gearset. In other words, gonna hurt the pocket.

I'll try get an audio file up so you can hear it. Im telling ya, strangest noise ive heard, and for alot of other people might I add.

To throw another one in, when I lean on the gearshift, makes a whine as well. Its a different note, 1 &3 to 2&4. (moving it forwards and backwards...)

[Guest EGOXRT]

Ok, im still stuck between a rock and a hard place.

Went to ford today, they listened and said it could be fixed. They will take it out and send it to someone.

Spoke to the local mechanic, and he wants it back, sounds like he had an idea he wants to try.

I've got still no idea on what it could be, I have got some different psi tunes for it, but the thing does it even with stock tune, unfortunately im starting to come to terms with it being in the gearset. In other words, gonna hurt the pocket.

I'll try get an audio file up so you can hear it. Im telling ya, strangest noise ive heard, and for alot of other people might I add.

To throw another one in, when I lean on the gearshift, makes a whine as well. Its a different note, 1 &3 to 2&4. (moving it forwards and backwards...)

Mate my T56 does the same thing thru 1,3,5 stock with 14,000km. Lucky dip with these cars, but Fraud will tell you it is normal and the so called experts, wont give a straight answer either so go figure??