Illegal V8 Supercar testing

[XR6_ED]

test car eh!!......so they built a car they will NOT race but get the data of it to put on there race cars.....Its still a race car IMHO

[turb06]

test car eh!!......so they built a car they will NOT race but get the data of it to put on there race cars.....Its still a race car IMHO

Same here, why would they need a full crew and data loggers if the information recorded wasnt going to be used towards the supercar/s

Dazza.

[Falchoon]

Team Dynamik fined $104,000 for unauthorised testing.

No penalties on points.

They have lodged intention to appeal

Breach D1 (unauthorised testing) $72,000

Breach C13.10.2 (control tyres) $15,000

Breach c14.11.2 (Sensors) $15,000

Breach E6 (Transporter Identification) $2,000

Breach D1 is the max. penalty that can be imposed for that Rule.

Taken directly from the official CAMS Summary, issued 2pm, EST at Sandown:

"We determine the appropriate penalty is financial. The activity was such that we believe it inappropriate to deduct points as this affects on individual drivers rather than penalising the Team. Similarly we decline to impose any additional form of penalty."

[XR6_ED]

waste $104,000 and gain invaluable data,,,,nice trade off

[Mondie]

sh*t that's a big fine, plenty of companies have got fines much less than that for negligence leading to the death of a worker.

[turb06]

There was a discussion about this on v8 superstars last time it was on, and the point the drivers (mainly skaife) were making is that by penalising teams with only fines, it is like saying its ok to cheat, as long as you cough up the money when your caught, now $104,000 is a fair sh*t load that teams cant afford to pay out, but in the instance of SBR ecu wire, and Perkins suspension infringement they were only $5000 fines that teams can afford to pay. I think its sending out the wrong message and I think teams should be suspended for x amount of rounds or have test days deducted for rule breaches, at the end of the day (although I doubt it)team dynamic might have gained valuable test data that could end up being well worth the $104,000 fine.

My 2 cents.

Dazza.

[crisso]

There was a discussion about this on v8 superstars last time it was on, and the point the drivers (mainly skaife) were making is that by penalising teams with only fines, it is like saying its ok to cheat, as long as you cough up the money when your caught, now $104,000 is a fair sh*t load that teams cant afford to pay out, but in the instance of SBR ecu wire, and Perkins suspension infringement they were only $5000 fines that teams can afford to pay. I think its sending out the wrong message and I think teams should be suspended for x amount of rounds or have test days deducted for rule breaches, at the end of the day (although I doubt it)team dynamic might have gained valuable test data that could end up being well worth the $104,000 fine.

My 2 cents.

Dazza.

I agree Dazza,

V8SuperStars touched on this and they were making jokes about the situation, but yes, they were saying they should write the cheque prior to breaking the rules and send it off :lol:

[XR6_ED]

at the end of the day (although I doubt it)team dynamic might have gained valuable test data that could end up being well worth the $104,000 fine.

If the team felt that it would be a waste of time they wouldn't have done it...Someone in the team felt that by doing this there must have been a advantage to be made and went to a certain degree of steath to hide the intentions..

If they we doing suspension testing then a gain would have been made as they could afford the luxury of changing springs and shocks at there leisure and not be tied to a time constraint....I may be utterly wrong ,,,,but they took a risk and got caught

[DallasQLD]

doesnt mean anything - they still wont win anything!.

[Turbo6man]

$104,000 is not to be sneezed at. It represents a hefty expense to the team.

BUT will it be any deterrent to the rich teams? I think not. It simply means a team that is willing to spend the money on fines is able to get an advantage over the others, which is exactly the opposite to what this category of racing is about. It is supposedly a parity formula and has rules in place to ensure that money doesn't buy the championship.

I know what they are saying in regard to not penalising the drivers by taking points from them, but I really think the best way to deal with a team that breaches these types of rules is disqualification for the remainder of the season. Either way I guess the drivers are disadvantaged through possibly no fault of their own, but hey, the rules are the rules, and if a serious breach occurs then serious consequences must flow from it.

It is pretty common knowledge that "cheating" has been occurring in many areas of this formula for years. To avoid adverse publicity AVESCO has shown a willingness to turn a blind eye. But as it is now more in the scrutiny of the press and more breaches are being discovered, the whole thing is losing more and more credibility. Funny how this trend (of suddenly discovering breaches) has only become apparent since Ford started getting a few wins eh? Good though that the Expensive Daewoo guys are at last getting caught out