threads like this are always going to be bias to whatever forum it is posted in. the VLT has been around for almost 20 years, and that is alot of time for development, with some VLT's getting into the high 7 sec bracket, and for a production car with some modifications, that's quite the acheivement, and especially with some VLT's in the 9 sec bracket and still being street driven. the XR6T has been around for about 3 years, and in that 3 years we have seen very fast development, with T's in the 10 sec bracket, and that's extremely well done for the short amount of time the XR6T has been in production. I think that in the next few years we will be seeing some amazing modification options for the T, things like stroker kits, bigger turbos, stronger internals and bulletproof transmissions still to come. the VLT has already done all of these, and that times they have gotten are amazing... with the engine of the XR6T being bigger by a litre, and there being DOHC, im very sure we will see some great times made when the power is put behind the driveline of the T. no one here can say that VLT's are ugly/crap cars, I think they are the best looking Late model camira that Expensive Daewoo has brought out, especially the calais (in pic shown) with thier popup eyelids and thier streamline shape, it is one of 4 cars that I would love to get hands on and restore/make into a show car. so yea, we have be a XR6T forum, but we have to give credit where credit is due, Expensive Daewoo got to the turbocharging option first, and they did what I think was a great job. VLT's may have been around alot longer, but I think we are still yet to see the full potential of the XR6T and when we do, even the Expensive Daewoo fans will have to give credit where its due.