15/02/04 07:34 AM15/02/04 07:34 AM #1 I am thinking of getting an NSW gun liscence. Not for any major reason but would occasionaly like to go shooting at gun club etc, I used to enjoy plinking with Dads 6.5x55 mauser, my brothers Lee Enfield 0.303 or a friends 44-40 Lever Action, not that I could hit a barn door at 10ft with them.I am just wondering what are the rules and regs you have to go through to get one? Do you need to be a member of Gun Club already or have acceptence to one?Are there practical tests or theoretical etc?I know that you have to keep the bolts and actual rifles seperate in locked boxes (screwed to floor or 150KG or similar (in Qld at least) I have looked every where to find the rules and regs but I can't so was wondering if any members or some of the resident boys in blue can help me?Cheers, Brendan
15/02/04 09:15 AM15/02/04 09:15 AM #2 well I know that if you have something on you r your record it makes things a b**** but I do not think that you have to be A member of A gun clup
15/02/04 10:01 AM15/02/04 10:01 AM #3 Brendan, my advice would be to use the reason for license as 'recreational hunting', as you won't need to become a member of a gun club. I think that you have to shoot at least 4 times a year with a club to keep your license if reason is 'Target shooting'. To apply for a recreational hunting license, you must know someone with an acreage property that you can shoot on with their permission, (stat. dec. needed from property owner). I know you stated that you would like to go shooting at a gun club occasionally, but if it is not often and you know of someone with a property, you may be better off with a recreational hunting licence. Either way, make sure you apply for a class A & B license, as the firearms you stated are centrefire rifles and require a class B license (as opposed to rimfire and air powered rifles...class A). You need to state a reason for applying for class B and I use,' To shoot larger game at greater distances'. PM me if you have any specific questions that I may help you with ???
15/02/04 11:35 AM15/02/04 11:35 AM #4 Sorry Brendan I'm not up to date with the regulations about gun ownership. My understanding is that you apply for a particular class of license at a Police Station and the application is sent off to the Stalinists at the Firearms Registry.Two things really annoy me about the whole hullabaloo about gun licenses.Firstly, I fully support gun ownership for recreational, sporting and primary producers. I am very annoyed at the anti gun lobby that has made it very very hard (and socially stigmatising) for gun enthusiasts. I actually handed back all my rifles in the gun buy back as I couldn't bothered going though all the inspections etc to satisfy the watermelon component of the NSW Upper House and the Lower House.The law abiding citizen is again the ones who suffer. Like anything, those outside the law don;t follow the regulations and makes it harder for those that do. Unlicensed, suspended or disqualified drivers have a much greater representation in fatalities than licensed drivers. The same goes for death/injury from firearms-unlicensed shooters with stolen weapons figure prominently in firearm incidents than those with licensed firearms. It is typical 'socialist' thinking - the 'nanny' state wants to be the carer and protector instead of the individual having personal responsibility.Secondly, due to the incompetence of the Firearms registry, a complete audit of all licensed firearms has to be conducted by the NSW Police. This means every section of a station has to go and physically audit the licensed firearms held by licensed gun holders within their LAC. The Dept has promised this will be completed by the end of March.I know for a fact that we have thousands of inspections to complete in our area alone and it an almost impossible task. Virtually every section on every shift carried out these audits and neglecting all but the most urgent of Police responses to calls for assistance. This is another gross misuse of a scarce resource that is paid for by the NSW taxpayer.Good luck with getting a license - This is my opinion only - it is neither right nor wrong
15/02/04 01:49 PM15/02/04 01:49 PM #5 Author Thanks Marcos: Even though I live in NSW we still have property in Qld, do you know if that is enough or does it have to be instate?Also what constitutes a property?Is it Acerage of a registered primary producer etc?I keep forgetting that Air Rifle's are "Rifles", the first day we got our (christmas) we went through about 3 of the slugs boxes, so much fun, so little harm and I was only 10!PM Sent.Plonky I agree to some extent with you over the gun laws, I know people say that it was there right to have a Kalisnokov or whatever (had a mate who was one of these) but the way I see it, if you cant hit what your shooting at with three rounds what good is a spray of another 30 going to do you?but by the same token, Social Shooting is very much maligned and stigmatised in the majority of times today.Cheersbrendan
15/02/04 07:23 PM15/02/04 07:23 PM #6 Just move to Bankstown Brendan,The council hands out guns to all residents upon arrival
15/02/04 11:13 PM15/02/04 11:13 PM #7 Thanks Marcos: Even though I live in NSW we still have property in Qld, do you know if that is enough or does it have to be instate?Also what constitutes a property?Is it Acerage of a registered primary producer etc?I keep forgetting that Air Rifle's are "Rifles", the first day we got our (christmas) we went through about 3 of the slugs boxes, so much fun, so little harm and I was only 10!PM Sent.Plonky I agree to some extent with you over the gun laws, I know people say that it was there right to have a Kalisnokov or whatever (had a mate who was one of these) but the way I see it, if you cant hit what your shooting at with three rounds what good is a spray of another 30 going to do you?but by the same token, Social Shooting is very much maligned and stigmatised in the majority of times today.Cheersbrendan Air rifles are rifles, but you tend not to suffer the social stigma if you have one. Everyone equates air rifles to the low powered springer break barrel popguns we had as kids. Air rifles today are a very different kettle of fish, I've got a .22 cal bolt action with a cylinder than stores enough air for 70 shots. You still need a licence, but you get a lot less hassle for an air rifle and if you only want to shoot tincans ect for fun you can't go past 'em. the calibres you mention cost upwars of $1.20 a shot these days, OK if you actually need to shoot something, but an expensive way to shoot! The air rifle as you know uses pellets (dirt cheap!) and in .22 is quite capable of bagging a rabbit (I used to have a semitauto .22 rimfire, a .243 and a SKS, all licenced and subsequently handed in or sold as I had no use for 'em and got sick of feeling like a crim for owning them.)Good luck, I reccomend you join a club, that way people can talk to you about what sort of rifle would best suit your needs and it'll help with the licence.
15/02/04 11:21 PM15/02/04 11:21 PM #8 So where did my post go now?What the hell is going on around here
15/02/04 11:33 PM15/02/04 11:33 PM #9 ...been a lot of 'disapearing' posts and even entire threads lately.They should at minumum insert a post saying they have censored/removed posts after it has been done, perhaps even say why....
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