Timberlake And Jackson

[Dagabond]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/3461459.stm

[Turbo6man]

richdave> With you 100% - money talks in the good ol' US of A and nothing else matters to them. Anything they have given to the world has had a good monetary base for it and they are experts at playing politics for profit.

They have the most undemocratic and racist regime in the developed world.

I do however agree with one sentiment. I'd rather them than say China, France or Germany as the world's most powerful nation -

[aaronmihe]

What I find funny is that teh US papers/news media are freaking about - here most of our papers ran the pic in full colour and in a decent size *laugsh* The SMH pic was very clear....

We're obviously (and thankfully) a bit more accepting of practically bare boobies (it did have nipple covered and therefore technically would be 100% OK to publish in most countries without a warning.

I think I saw more tit*ies in Newcastle last weekend.....

A.

[AMoffat]

Good onya Dave. I concur.

As for nipples, I'm all for them. American or otherwise.

[Lumpen]

Lets see...Who was the first to use CHEMICAL WEAPONS on civilians?

I'll narrow it down...

The civilians were Kurds(they live in the north of Iraq and aborhhed Sadam).

It was just after a vicious war.

The man who signed off on the attack also plotted and kill thousands of his own people and those of other countries.

That man was : Winston Churchill.

The same Great and Venerable man that George Dubya sickenly proposed the same old falacies about at a state dinner not that many days ago.

And plonky, the closing days of the American War of Independence?One final Great Battle was won by the Rebels and the Pommies capitualted. Who won that battle?It was the Divisions upon divisions of FRENCH soldiers using FRENCH weapons while the battle weary, beleaugured Americans could do naught but look on!

The US economy is not built on freedom or innovation at all.It is built on sheer scale and financial control of poor countries via organisations such as the WTO and World Bank.There are no freedoms into the US at all.The farmers are constantly subsidised and huge tarriff are applied to foreign produce and in countries that more than the US export to the US uses its diplomatic wing to "armtwist' prioritisation deals so that US produce HAS to be accepted over others, Say australias.Not to meantion their blatant exploitation of the underclass in third world countries that mass produce goods for the "fair and equitable"Multinationals.

Germany was also an excellent centre of engineering between the wars and the US gave these grants perhaps out of some hollow sorrow for the thousands upon thousands of civilians they killed in Judicious bombing of residential centres or their borrowing of high level nazi engineers to suit their own means.Wehrner von Braun anyone?commited nazi til the very end.but he was on the side of 'good' so that was OK?

The US exerts to much muscle for my liking and while its being run by Oil Crazy, misguided fools who do nothing more than protect their personal interests it will be more of a danger than all the rouge states put together.

How many 1000's of ICBM do they still have in stock?Last conservative estimate was about 3,000!and this is in the possesion of a man who will do anything to gaurantee "US" security, even lie to congress, the populous and invade a sovreign country under no provocation against international will and reason to secure a resource he has a vested interest in and begin to exploit the populous and its resource within months!

[JJ_Phantom]

The rationale to go to war with Iraq was based heavily on Iraq's failure to co-operate with UN resolutions. Saddam was a threat to neighbouring states in the region and in a post Sep 11 enviroment, the world could ill afford the risk of a nuclear threat in the middle east.

The threat being that he was he was capable of posessing and using WMD and had not co-operated with the UN from 1998 to 2002 (a bit like Rene Rivkin a larger scale) and was actually in negotiations with Nth Korea to source WMD. Let's not forget that Saddam was not afraid to use biological weapons against Iran in the 80's.

1. The UN (minus the USA & England) were quite clear to the world that war was not what they wanted. Unless you know something that the rest of the world doesn't (do you know where the WMD are??????) then Iraq were not in breach of any UN resolutions.

2. Any mention of Sept 11 in regards to Saddam loses all credibility. Osama (the big bad mastermind living in a cave) given the chance would kill Saddam as quickly as he would any american. He hates the man.

3. Who ordered the use of those weapons against the Iranian's in the 80's? the answer - the american Govt.

[richdave]

all this because some white guy tore a hole in some black gals top and her tittie popped out...

[plonky]

What if Justin Timberlake flashed his nipple

Would there have been such an uproar

(as you may have noticed I am no longer debating anything to do with religion, politics etc. I have offended people and it is more prudent to keep my comments to myself in order not to alienate people who I have time for)

[sharkey]

all this because some white guy tore a hole in some black gals top and her tittie popped out...

Storm in a B cup I reckon.

Ashame it detracted from what was actually a great game, with the winner decided in the last 4 seconds.

[3rdTurbo]

Gents - Thanks for sharing your views.

Although we're all car enthusiasts, I'm glad that there are many other forum members who have an opinion and a view on world affairs.

I expected to be flamed harder than that!

Thanks guys - great debate. I'll be following the comments in the days to come with interest.