badabing Member 40 Member For: 21y 6m 19d Location: Sydney Posted 11/10/03 11:28 PM Share Posted 11/10/03 11:28 PM Hi all, Im very new to this so please bear with me. I took delivery of my new XR6 on Thursday and excitement soon turned to dissapointment once I got the vehicle home. The car was optioned with traction control but the switch to disable it is not there. The dealer assures me traction control was factory fitted and they just need to get the button up from Ford but I now have my doubts. Is there any way I can check that it is physically there without having to spin the wheels? I do get the traction control light on the dash for 3 seconds when the ignition is turned on. I've also been doing a bit of reading through these forums over the last hour or so, when it comes to reverse sensing, what I understand from the the posts I've read is that it should be wired back through to the premium sound screen/system (which I optioned and got) however in my car the dealer has rather tackily mounted a pizeo buzzer on the rear drivers side pillar. Has the dealer just fitted a cheap and nasty after market unit?I won't name the dealer but during the delivery inspection I found the tow ball and the fuse box cover in the engine bay were both missing. The boot had what looked like fragments from a smahed tail light in it and in the drivers foot well I found a diode, I assume left over from the alarm install. Maybe I a little picky but the predelivery wasn't worth a pinch of sh*t and it's got me wondering what else may be wrong?thanks. Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/6797-traction-control-reverse-sensing-qs/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
aaronmihe Upstanding Member Member 759 Member For: 21y 7m 26d Location: Canberra - ACT Posted 12/10/03 12:32 AM Share Posted 12/10/03 12:32 AM Easiest way would be turn the ignition key to the "on" position and see if the Traction control lamp lights up on the lower right of the cluster as the dah displays all the warnings.If it don't light up then there's even more stuff missing.I assume you're talking about an N/A XR6 if you had to option it in?A. Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/6797-traction-control-reverse-sensing-qs/#findComment-56766 Share on other sites More sharing options...
badabing Member 40 Member For: 21y 6m 19d Location: Sydney Posted 12/10/03 12:56 AM Author Share Posted 12/10/03 12:56 AM Yep it is a N/A XR6. The light appears on the dash when the ignition is turned on for about 3 seconds, but all the lamps come on when the ignition is turned on, so it that only a "lamp test" or does it confirm that the rest of the system really is installed? Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/6797-traction-control-reverse-sensing-qs/#findComment-56768 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falchoon I see red Member 5,758 Member For: 22y 4m 14d Location: nowhere in particular Posted 12/10/03 01:06 AM Share Posted 12/10/03 01:06 AM Can't help you with the TC question but I agree the PD sounds pretty ordinary. Take it back to the dealer and get them to replace the missing parts. That's what you paid the money for, a complete car, not 95% of one. Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/6797-traction-control-reverse-sensing-qs/#findComment-56772 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest P'cisT Guests Posted 12/10/03 07:22 AM Share Posted 12/10/03 07:22 AM I've also been doing a bit of reading through these forums over the last hour or so, when it comes to reverse sensing, what I understand from the the posts I've read is that it should be wired back through to the premium sound screen/system (which I optioned and got) however in my car the dealer has rather tackily mounted a pizeo buzzer on the rear drivers side pillar. Has the dealer just fitted a cheap and nasty after market unit? Not sure about the traction control part although it's dodgy they could forget the switch.With the reverse sensors however, the beep noises should come out of the rear speakers when you reverse. From your description of the addition of this buzzer, I suspect they have given you an aftermartket system. Did you go through with it with the Dealer, or the accessories lady? If it was with teh dealer, I would be questioning him.Hope it works out mate. Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/6797-traction-control-reverse-sensing-qs/#findComment-56816 Share on other sites More sharing options...
FORDTECH Member 383 Member For: 21y 11m Location: On the edge Posted 12/10/03 07:44 AM Share Posted 12/10/03 07:44 AM The dealer fit genuine reverse sensing system has a small speaker in the control unit which should be mounted to the rear parcel shelf of the car.If it's factory fitted the reverse sensing audible warning comes through the rear speakers.If your vehicle is a N/A XR6 with a limited slip diff, you cannot have traction control with this combination(Only XR6T & XR8). Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/6797-traction-control-reverse-sensing-qs/#findComment-56825 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BA Ghia Guests Posted 12/10/03 10:12 AM Share Posted 12/10/03 10:12 AM If you have the colour ICC, then it "SHOULD" have been connected to the Reverse sensor input on the ICC.From my understanding, The Reverse sensor speaker thing mounted on the rear parcel tray was for models that didnt have the Colour ICC optioned. (Like the Fairmont models).From my understanding, the Colour ICC is the only ICC that has the reverse sensor sound input, hence the need for the speaker option, if the reverse sensor feature has been optioned on a non-premium sound system.The Colour ICC version is the better option, as the Audio is dimmed when the transmission is placed in reverse, and the loudness of the Reverse Beeps can be controlled via the volume control.If I was you, I would whinge long and hard about that one, as if you paid for a Ford genuine Reverse sensor system, then you would expect to have something that would resemble a genuine Ford System. Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/6797-traction-control-reverse-sensing-qs/#findComment-56855 Share on other sites More sharing options...
badabing Member 40 Member For: 21y 6m 19d Location: Sydney Posted 12/10/03 11:43 AM Author Share Posted 12/10/03 11:43 AM Thanks for the advice, looks like I need to have some words with the dealer about the reverse system. The way BA Ghia understands it is the way I understand it. I optioned and was given premium sound with the colour ICC.Reverse sensing was optioned on the order form with the dealer (they put it down as a dealer fitted option). I think I should get the system that integrates with the colour ICC. Does anyone know if the integrated system can be dealer fitted? I guess this one will come down to how long and hard I whinge.The other problem is they've used a self tapper to attach the buzzer to the trim just above the back seat so unless that can be replaced I'll end up with a hole in it as well. It's really starting to piss me off now!Fordtech, it's a N/A XR6 I did not ask for the LSD I optioned only the traction control. The fact that the TC light comes on for a few sec at startup make me think (hope) that it really only is the button missing. If there was some physical way of telling if TC was fitted it would just put my mind at ease. Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/6797-traction-control-reverse-sensing-qs/#findComment-56871 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest P'cisT Guests Posted 12/10/03 11:54 AM Share Posted 12/10/03 11:54 AM The dealer fit genuine reverse sensing system has a small speaker in the control unit which should be mounted to the rear parcel shelf of the car.If it's factory fitted the reverse sensing audible warning comes through the rear speakers. Is there an easy way to tell them apart? eg. look for the additional speaker (haven't noticed it though) etc?Also, with the factory fitted ones, are the holes for the sensors to be mounted done by machine or hand? I would assume the dealer one is by hand.I would like to hope mine is connected to the ICC. Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/6797-traction-control-reverse-sensing-qs/#findComment-56874 Share on other sites More sharing options...
badabing Member 40 Member For: 21y 6m 19d Location: Sydney Posted 12/10/03 12:06 PM Author Share Posted 12/10/03 12:06 PM P'cisT, check the manual, it tells you how to adjust reverse sensor volume, if you can adjust the volume it's connected to the ICC. Hope this helps Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/6797-traction-control-reverse-sensing-qs/#findComment-56876 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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