Power The 'nice guy' Donating Members 314 Member For: 20y 1m Gender: Male Location: Sydney (Area around Ryde) Posted 05/09/07 06:08 AM Share Posted 05/09/07 06:08 AM (edited) Any expertise in regard to wether the BTR 4 speed is different in ANY way across the BA/BF (4spd auto) range of sedans/utes?Some models have no traction control for example. In torque reduction is this done in conjunction with the PCM controlling the auto, or is it a function of a slightly different auto model or option, or nothing to do with the auto at all?Cheers. Edited 05/09/07 06:09 AM by Power Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/38049-differences-in-4-speed-auto-in-various-babf-models/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
senna_T Forged Member Lifetime Members 15,818 Member For: 18y 2m 26d Gender: Male Location: SW Sydney Posted 05/09/07 06:10 AM Share Posted 05/09/07 06:10 AM its mostly the PCM, it uses the engine to reduce torque going to the rear wheels more than the gearbox doing anything Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/38049-differences-in-4-speed-auto-in-various-babf-models/#findComment-571559 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Power The 'nice guy' Donating Members 314 Member For: 20y 1m Gender: Male Location: Sydney (Area around Ryde) Posted 09/09/07 11:47 AM Author Share Posted 09/09/07 11:47 AM its mostly the PCM, it uses the engine to reduce torque going to the rear wheels more than the gearbox doing anythingThanks. Always had thought it was brakes, then engine management, but thought I'd seen something about the auto and ABS.Did a bit of digging in a manual, and saw what I skimmed one day simply reffered to a speedometer drive gear retained to the output shaft in non-ABS vehicles only. Obviously this doesn't matter.A HUGE BUMP: With all the expertise on this board, am I safe to assume that the BTR4 speed taken from any BA falcon sedan or ute would be a direct and bolt-in replacement? That even if any crossmember or trans support brackets were different between vehichles, the mounting point and box inside and out is the same? Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/38049-differences-in-4-speed-auto-in-various-babf-models/#findComment-572981 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOM1111 Member 631 Member For: 17y 9m 5d Gender: Male Location: newcastle Posted 09/09/07 07:26 PM Share Posted 09/09/07 07:26 PM did you blow a gearbox??? Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/38049-differences-in-4-speed-auto-in-various-babf-models/#findComment-573043 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Power The 'nice guy' Donating Members 314 Member For: 20y 1m Gender: Male Location: Sydney (Area around Ryde) Posted 10/09/07 12:15 AM Author Share Posted 10/09/07 12:15 AM did you blow a gearbox???Not at all, but let's face it: with a standard box running around 1,000nM how much longer can my luck hold out?I thought I had done some damage to the planetary (by sound only as diagnosed by others), but then even that seems to have gone away with change of workshops, service, engine change...., tune etc.Just want to be prepared so it will be an easier process and no tears and delays. Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/38049-differences-in-4-speed-auto-in-various-babf-models/#findComment-573069 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOM1111 Member 631 Member For: 17y 9m 5d Gender: Male Location: newcastle Posted 10/09/07 05:10 AM Share Posted 10/09/07 05:10 AM im in the same boat I have a 4 speed but not as much power as youI would just be looking at getting your box rebuilt with tougher internals rather then putting another stock box in it would be a much wiser choice in the long run.im looking at getting mine done in melbourne Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/38049-differences-in-4-speed-auto-in-various-babf-models/#findComment-573177 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Power The 'nice guy' Donating Members 314 Member For: 20y 1m Gender: Male Location: Sydney (Area around Ryde) Posted 10/09/07 10:14 AM Author Share Posted 10/09/07 10:14 AM im in the same boat I have a 4 speed but not as much power as youI would just be looking at getting your box rebuilt with tougher internals rather then putting another stock box in it would be a much wiser choice in the long run.im looking at getting mine done in melbourneNo, not putting together a stock box at all. Looking at a 400rwkw+ box (sort of asking a lot from that box of course). May go interestate, may go local, looking at options and ideas rather than the $ figure.Just wanting to buy another and get it built and do a swap to avoid downtime, and then have a spare stocker just in case. Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/38049-differences-in-4-speed-auto-in-various-babf-models/#findComment-573323 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Power The 'nice guy' Donating Members 314 Member For: 20y 1m Gender: Male Location: Sydney (Area around Ryde) Posted 10/09/07 10:44 AM Author Share Posted 10/09/07 10:44 AM (edited) im in the same boat I have a 4 speed but not as much power as youI would just be looking at getting your box rebuilt with tougher internals rather then putting another stock box in it would be a much wiser choice in the long run.im looking at getting mine done in melbourneAnd....of the four, who are you looking at in Melbourne? Kewish I guess (I have yet to call them)? Who are you using for, and $ for freight & maybe insurance?Not to you mate: But is my question about BTR 4 speed auto's all being the same in ANY BA sedan/ute or BF 4 spd model STUPID or beyond our forum members knowledge? If it is stupid call me STUPID (I've been called worse ).Heeeeeeeeelp. booo hooooo Edited 10/09/07 10:45 AM by Power Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/38049-differences-in-4-speed-auto-in-various-babf-models/#findComment-573333 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOM1111 Member 631 Member For: 17y 9m 5d Gender: Male Location: newcastle Posted 10/09/07 10:52 AM Share Posted 10/09/07 10:52 AM im looking at using prestonshavnt sorted out any freight costs yet but I will try ship it there as I dont want to drive to melbourneit will probably be atleast a month before I start ringing around the different mobs to get price's. Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/38049-differences-in-4-speed-auto-in-various-babf-models/#findComment-573337 Share on other sites More sharing options...
milkshakemaker New Member 2 Member For: 6y 8d Posted 24/04/19 03:03 PM Share Posted 24/04/19 03:03 PM So, anyone able to answer the original question about the BTR boxes ? are BA/BF the same as territory’s ? Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/38049-differences-in-4-speed-auto-in-various-babf-models/#findComment-1682429 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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