Edit & Economy - The Facts

[xrturb]

in all fairness it is only at least two with the issue and it is not wide spead

[Lawsy]

I'm sure you could just be really soft in your adjustments, like 14.8:1 clossed loop AFR. It might give you another 10k's in a tank, you never know.....

I'm sure that would have barely any effect on the temps as well......

Meh, I'm just spamming.

[Guest]

I'm sure you could just be really soft in your adjustments, like 14.8:1 clossed loop AFR. It might give you another 10k's in a tank, you never know.....

I'm sure that would have barely any effect on the temps as well......

Meh, I'm just spamming.

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that is correct lawsy it is just that some times we comand 14.8/1.1 but get 14.5/.99 this is not the edit but the pcm or for that matter the test equipment etc!!!

[Crazy F6]

So is what you are saying street tuner is edit is safer then piggybacks,

Why I am asking this is I drive my car hard all the time all day every day so if I leave my piggyback on my engine is it going to be stuffed.

So is my engine life going to be better with a edit or a piggyback???

Edited 24/05/05 07:50 AM by Crazy F6

[Adam]

So is what you are saying street tuner is edit is safer then piggybacks,

Why I am asking this is I drive my car hard all the time all day every day so if I leave my piggyback on my engine is it going to be stuffed at how many kays??????

I think that's a how longs a piece of string type of question.

[xlnt6]

Street Tuner,

That's great info, appreciate you sharing that with us. I've had the Edit fitted for several weeks now, and after initial tuning Simon@Nizpro was able to get much more mid-range power/torque from the engine vs using the TSI Pro Sequential piggyback I had previously.

As you cover well in your post, I was told / read that removing the "torque limiting" constraints of the Edit were somewhat responsible for the improvement. Now I can see this isn't quite true, although the overall impact is similar. What my thread shows:

http://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=17416

is that at the same boost or less boost (see high RPM) the edit out performed the TSI as well. Is this a similar reason as described, or is it just maintaining a better AFR/timing combo to produce better results ? I'm interested in hearing the technical whys and wherefores for this.

I have noted that with a combo of town/highway driving I used to regularly get between 510-530km from a tank, and now I get 480-510km from a tank with Edit (a change of around 10%). I can live with that, as I wouldn't want to go back in performance for the sake of a bit more fuel. After all, we don't want any of those oil sheiks to go hungry now do we.....

Cheers

Robin.

[Lawsy]

I'm sure you could just be really soft in your adjustments, like 14.8:1 clossed loop AFR. It might give you another 10k's in a tank, you never know.....

I'm sure that would have barely any effect on the temps as well......

Meh, I'm just spamming.

that is correct lawsy it is just that some times we comand 14.8/1.1 but get 14.5/.99 this is not the edit but the pcm or for that matter the test equipment etc!!!

Oh, I see....

So would it be safe to say that you could just play with it untill you knew that you were going to get, say, just under 15:1 for less than 2300 rpm (about 120km/h ish) so that, without any real nasty increases in heat, you could get the benefit of the leaner mix?

It would be interesting to see what you guys can come up with as a very mild and soft method of running a leaner mix without having ANY adverse affects on the engine. Really interesting indeed.....

[Guest]

I'm sure you could just be really soft in your adjustments, like 14.8:1 clossed loop AFR. It might give you another 10k's in a tank, you never know.....

I'm sure that would have barely any effect on the temps as well......

Meh, I'm just spamming.

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that is correct lawsy it is just that some times we comand 14.8/1.1 but get 14.5/.99 this is not the edit but the pcm or for that matter the test equipment etc!!!

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Oh, I see....

So would it be safe to say that you could just play with it untill you knew that you were going to get, say, just under 15:1 for less than 2300 rpm (about 120km/h ish) so that, without any real nasty increases in heat, you could get the benefit of the leaner mix?

It would be interesting to see what you guys can come up with as a very mild and soft method of running a leaner mix without having ANY adverse affects on the engine. Really interesting indeed.....

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essentially yes you can acheive 15:1 afr with a few atempts