I predict that the VZ will be an absolute sales success and Ford are going to have their butt's kicked because they haven't done enough to capitalise on the BA.

l predict that your prediction is spot on, the next Late model camira is going to wipe the floor with the BA2 IMO. Ford come out with a good car and closed the gap. they have since let quality slip and failed to market the BA effectivley, although that's been their weakness for years. l reckon the next HSV models, when they gain the LS2, are going to be awesome.

Jeez..............

I hope you guys are wrong, but my gut feeling is you're going to be right!

Mark.

I thought the new commy v6 was going to be eitehr a 8.8 or a 2.8 litre quad cam 6, with HSV to release a twin turbo 295kw 3.8L and a turbo (not sure if is a twin or not) 220kw 2.8L. I read this in either wheel, motor, or zoom but I cant remember which one and be buggered if I want to go searching for the article.

My friends that work at Expensive Daewoo tell me that this week is the last week of production for the VY Commodore. Expensive Daewoo will be closed for 2 weeks while they change everything for the new model, then they will start pumping out the VZ Commodores.

I doubt Expensive Daewoo would close down a production line for 2 weeks to get ready for the new model. I remember reading an article and seeing pictures of a BA xr6 getting built on the production line. It was the only BA in sight and the AU's were surrounding it. But I could be wrong.

Anyways I recon that the new front is better than the existing, but I'd have to see it in the flesh to decide really. But those side "z3" BMW wannabe vent's are a little out of place I recon. In regards to the arse end, seems that Expensive Daewoo still love the magna's arse. In Saying that, the front looks out of place, concidering the rest of the car hardly has any real defining lines. Unbalanced mess really.

Did someone say mess?

Hahahahaha the VY wasnt that bad in the flesh, so I cant see the VZ being much worse, I do like the side on view excluding the rear, I think that looks horn!

It is an unbalanced mess. The roof and middle section of the car is soft and rounded but the front and tail and square and hard. There is no balance between the roof and the rest of the car. It looks out of place. The roof should have been squared up a bit to make it more balanced.

Side on it looks a lot like the BA, front a bit like the BA, back view....typical Holden. And because of hat yes....it does look unbalanced.

That's why I reckon the SS or HSV will have a bonnet bulge.

now that GM have got rid of that Buick boat anchor

Is this just the Cadillac V6 built here & what happened to the 280kw TTurbo V6 HSV we'd heard about

Scotty

XRBloke agree with you about the VY, saw a black SS at the local shopping centre and it looked sh@t hot

XRBloke agree with you about the VY, saw a black SS at the local shopping centre and it looked sh@t hot

ditto