thanks guys for the responses so far! Harvyk is dead right, in that I'm trying to compile info before facing the tough task of dealing with the Ford salesman!!! :-) In the meantime, to get some feel of current falcons, I've driving the office wagon (!). Don't like the standard audio at all! Not to mention the handling, etc.... The gearbox downshift is far better than the Commode's though I'm thinking (dreaming?) of the current model XR6T with the 6spd auto Satz