4SinAir Member 125 Member For: 18y 1m 14d Gender: Male Location: morley, perth Posted 23/02/09 09:32 AM Posted 23/02/09 09:32 AM I know sounds like a stupid idea but I wanna know if any one has done it, dont go crazy at me as this is the only wayI could find out get the centre muffler removed as well as the rear but keep the hotdogs that are before the rear muffler an puta milo tin on it? got no mods to my car as I just wont a nice beefy note
BFHOON Legacy Donating Member 1,932 Member For: 20y 6m 7d Gender: Male Location: nsw Posted 23/02/09 09:40 AM Posted 23/02/09 09:40 AM I have a stock system that has no mufflers at all, this is for off road use only.its really really loud way above legal and is not advisable for street use.
4SinAir Member 125 Member For: 18y 1m 14d Gender: Male Location: morley, perth Posted 23/02/09 09:43 AM Author Posted 23/02/09 09:43 AM yer!! do you think having them hotdogs an muffler would change it? I have a ute so its the twin 2 1/2 inch or wat ever it is standard
BFHOON Legacy Donating Member 1,932 Member For: 20y 6m 7d Gender: Male Location: nsw Posted 24/02/09 07:46 AM Posted 24/02/09 07:46 AM im not sure about the ute, the rear muffler on a sedan is the main noise reducer.its louder with no rear muffler and the stock centre muffler in place, with no centre muffler and twin 3 inch hotdogs at the rear its real loud and hetrodines like a loud 300zx.you need a balance pipe before the twin hotties to remove this strange tone.you should be happy with centre muffler removal only its not too loud, im using a berklea centre muffler and twin 3 inch hotdogs at the rear and it sounds nice also has a 5 inch cat and 4 inch pipe off the cat to a custom splitter.
RAP1D Member Legacy Donating Member 3,739 Member For: 20y 4m 12d Gender: Male Location: Sydney NSW Posted 24/02/09 12:24 PM Posted 24/02/09 12:24 PM We've done a few of these as custom jobs, but with twin cannons... not too loud really.
RSK Member 340 Member For: 19y 18d Gender: Male Posted 25/02/09 07:33 AM Posted 25/02/09 07:33 AM Would removal of both mufflers create less back pressure, thus effecting torque? Or is the main restriction the CAT here? Getting my centre muffler removed, and whole section made up with just stock pipes, and when ringing around was advised by one work shop to remove the rear muffler too and just have straight pipes everywhere. When I asked if this would be too loud, they said "no"
Guest Guests Posted 25/02/09 07:44 AM Posted 25/02/09 07:44 AM Think about it mate, mufflers are there to reduce noise. No mufflers = very noisey & droney.Buy a cat-back system or just remove the centre muffler to start with if it's a different note you're after. If it's performance, stick a hi-flow cat in & the note will become deeper as well as an added bonus
RSK Member 340 Member For: 19y 18d Gender: Male Posted 25/02/09 07:48 AM Posted 25/02/09 07:48 AM Also best to confirm then, when my straight pipes for centre muffler area go in on Friday, will it DECREASE performance due to backpressure? I don't need to get my car-retuned right? Currently 265rwkw on 10psi
Guest Guests Posted 25/02/09 07:51 AM Posted 25/02/09 07:51 AM Do you have a hi-flow cat installed at present? If you do, I'd chuck it on a dyno to check AFR's after centre muffler is taken out.
Dirty32 Legendary member!! Legacy Donating Member 1,739 Member For: 19y 8m 10d Gender: Male Location: Dianella, West Oz Posted 25/02/09 07:53 AM Posted 25/02/09 07:53 AM No, it should not decrease performance... In saying that, its not going to dramatically increase flow or power so a retune isnt needed.Through to center muffler, the pipe diameter actually goes down to 1 and 3/4 inches as opposed to the 2 and 1/4 inches for the rest of the catback, so you should decrease backpressure.You will notice that your exhaust will burble and pop a lot more too. Iv read that this usually goes away if the vehicle is retuned!
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