RainingPistons New Member 11 Member For: 1m 1d Posted 18/06/25 05:49 AM Share Posted 18/06/25 05:49 AM THE UNFORTUNATE END TO ALL BA FORD FALCONS ARTICAL HERE! ALL BA PCM/ECU'S WILL ALWAYS FAIL THERES NO PERMANENT FIX ONLY TEMPORARY AT GREAT EXPENSE AS OF 2025 ITS 2K UPTO 3K FOR REPAIRS ITS NOT IF IT WILL FAIL ITS WHEN SADLY countless workshops have customers coming in for failed PCMs in the BA series Daily at one stage at its peak there had been 8340 people around Australia in 24 hours with BA PCM Failure Extensive Research and Automotive Experts have found the following. - so after doing tons of research again and speaking with Haltech, and Hootons harnesess which they done whats needed for the whole permanent fix on the Mighty Car Mods XR8 Series videos, so I found with the BA ECUs they actually used Lead Free solder, as to be more environmentally friendly which is why they ended up failing XR6T and XR8 Fail quicker because the engine bay temps are way higher but ALL BA PCM/ECU'S WILL ALWAYS FAIL ITS NOT IF ITS WHEN SADLY as it's 110% unavoidable but you can stretch the life of it for like 12 months by paying 2k to repair but even then it could break the next day because these BA ECUS are all bad and being 20 years old they are all moments away from failing the same way if you hit a pothole speed bump anything ready since all the BA ECUs are made the same way and there is no permanent fix its only all temporary only permanent solution is haltec which is all up 5 to 6 grand I was looking online just before to see if it was possible to reflow the joints with lead solder so that even the repaired ecus that you send to get repaired can be permanently fixed but it's basically impossible, so when you send you're pcm ecu to be repaired they have to use the lead free solder on the repaired ecu, which after asking a few people on the xr8 page and xr6T pages aswell they also confirmed they had to end up getting a whole stand alone haltech ecu setup which cost around 6k with all the adapter harneses and so on for the XR8 models and around 5 5500 for 6 cylinder models with the BTR 4 speed and manual versions which is a crazy price So when it went over that bump that would of caused that lead solder to end up cracking or snapping apart when was why when I poured boiling water over the ecu it was able to start up untill it cooled down and then wouldn't be connected to the solder and shut off So it would of happend any time any day anywhere and just driving to the shop then parking getting shopping you can come out goto start you're BA and it'll have cracked or snapped and won't work anymore if it does it'll have misfires or basically limp mode very sluggish and just absolutely terrible to drive which you can't avoid and eventually it'll snap or crack more and then it'll simply not start the car anymore and you're choice is either keep repairs them for 2-3k with prices rising weekly or go the haltech route 5-6k but beware if going haltech you're car is now illegal to be on the road and will be impounded instantly which is a real shame sadly but it's the same laws in all of Australia so basically the days of the BA FALCON are coming to a close and soon everyone will just have a garden ordiment to look at and remember all the memories it's sad but it's unfortunately how it is with the BA falcons, everything was fixed in the BF FG Models and this PCM issue is non exisistant in the BF FG Models but for BA sadly there time has come to a end. - Raining Pistons Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/97430-the-end-of-the-ba-ford-falcons/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
xr6tForMe Donating Members 284 Member For: 12y 18d Gender: Male Posted 18/06/25 07:53 AM Share Posted 18/06/25 07:53 AM 1 hour ago, RainingPistons said: countless workshops have customers coming in for failed PCMs in the BA series Daily at one stage at its peak there had been 8340 people around Australia in 24 hours with BA PCM Failure Extensive Research and Automotive Experts have found the following. While I have heard of PCMs failing, it cannot be anything like as bad as you are presenting. After some simple maths, I am going to call bullsh*t on the failure of "8340 in 24 hours" figure presented. Firstly, how would anyone ever find out that figure of "8340 in 24 hours" in any accurate way? It is not possible for someone to contact every single workshop and ask "Did you have a BA falcon with a damaged PCM today"? Even if they did call every workshop, they would not get to talk to the right staff and get an accurate answer. Secondly, if there had ever actually been 8340 failed in 24 hours, then every single BA would have already failed many times over From a quick search "The Ford Falcon BA sold 281,197 units between 2002 and 2005." 8340 is just under 3% of the BAs produced. At the same rate of 8340 per day, virtually every single BA ever made would have failed in only 1 month. Even if you said "that was a bad day" and the rest of the days they failed at only half that rate (4150), it would still be all over for every single BA in 67 days. I think we can all see that is not the case.... While there might be an issue, it is important to make decisions based on facts. 1 Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/97430-the-end-of-the-ba-ford-falcons/#findComment-1726416 Share on other sites More sharing options...
k31th less WHY; more WOT Site Developer 29,598 Member For: 17y 3m 7d Gender: Male Location: Melbourne Posted 18/06/25 11:16 PM Share Posted 18/06/25 11:16 PM some serious doomerism by you there @RainingPistons... just because you're personally affected by it, there's no reason to push that clearly written by you but also badly written article on everybody... Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/97430-the-end-of-the-ba-ford-falcons/#findComment-1726418 Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Andrew Gold Donating Members 2,040 Member For: 10y 2m 25d Gender: Male Location: Canberra ACT Posted 19/06/25 12:22 AM Share Posted 19/06/25 12:22 AM Haha I was about to reply with exactly the same thoughts - over 8000 a day would wipe the entire BA population in a month, ignoring the fact that lots of them would already be off the road by now.About as reasonable as saying 110% guaranteed to fail.I imagine now BAs are getting to the stage where either they are not worth fixing, or if a well kept Turbo owners would think they are worth putting a couple of grand into for a Haltech upgrade. Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/97430-the-end-of-the-ba-ford-falcons/#findComment-1726419 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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