Wanted - Worn out 355mm Brembo disc Sydney

[xr6tForMe]

Quick update.

 

The territory turbo discs and calipers have arrived.

 

The stock FG caliper and bracket does not fit over the 32mm wide Territory turbo disc.  Its close, but hits before the caliper is fully over the disc.  It might be possible to do some clearancing, but I would not be comfortable with that.

 

The FG caliper bracket can not fit on the Turbo Territory Caliper - the slide pins are in different positions.  That rules out using the FG NA or Turbo caliper brackets to have some different mounting options..

 

I have done a quick test fit of a 340mm disc, Territory Turbo caliper and new bearing/hub inside an 18" G6E wheel and everything fits with plenty of clearance.

A 355mm disc is only 7.5mm extra radius and it appears that this would also fit.

 

It turns out that a mate has an old 355mm disc which I can use to test fit.

 

I am planning on trying to fit the 340mm discs as I already own them, and may buy 355mm discs and make a new adapter to mount the calipers later on.

 

I think I have worked out the steps I will take to make up an adapter bracket to allow the 340mm disc and Territory Turbo caliper to be mounted on the FG and I am hoping to start on this over the Easter long weekend.

[xr6tForMe]

In the last month, things have taken a bit of a turn.

I have been able to get hold of some 6 piston front and 4 piston rear Brembos at a price too good to pass up, so I am going down that path.

I have purchased the calipers, new discs and 18" wheels that fit over the brembos, so just need to sort out suitable brake lines for the calipers I have.

I still like the idea of the 340mm Territory Turbo discs and caliper fitting under the stock wheels, so I will probably still continue with this project, but later on.

[xr6tForMe]

Just an update on my Brembos for those that are interested.

I got the 6 piston Brembos and new Bendix ultimate brake discs installed on the front.

The brakes were initially making a constant ticking noise which was quite annoy me, but it has gone now.

I think it was the crosshatch machined finish on the disc surface trying to spin the pads one way, then the other, as now that the cross hatching is worn away, the noise is gone.

The brakes are really good! 

I am expecting them to cope much better whenever I can make it to a track day again.

[greasemonkey]

Can I ask XR6T some quick questions as I wish I may do the same in the next year or two.

 

1)Do the 4 pot and 6 pot brembo brakes fit over 18 inch wheels (or is it only some 18 inch wheels they will fit/). I have the Lenso spec e wheels

https://www.modkingz.com.au/wheels/lenso/lenso-d-spec-e-matt-black?productcode=PDE18855H%2B35MB&gad_source=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjwzva1BhD3ARIsADQuPnVZ3mJZx2ArEAXwi2IvnBTjUWEoddmb4yFJdJRLAN_PuX90h5l4vdQaAudMEALw_wcB

 

2)I am guessing you need new caliper mounting brackets for the 4 or 6 pot brembo brakes? Is there anything else you need to make this work (you said you need new flexible brake lines? How long are the two lines needed and is anyone making brake line kits for this conversion?

3)What pads are you running and what rotor brand and style?

I rebuilt my 2 pot brakes. The pads do make a big difference. Running Ultimate's but I know the Brembo's would give that much improvement again. Not sure how much difference you get between 4 and 6 piston caliper stopping power?

3)What

[xr6tForMe]

1.  Only some 18" wheels will fit over the Brembo brakes.

There are 4 piston front and 6 piston front Brembo calipers for Falcons, but both 4 and 6 piston calipers need wheels which will clear them.

The issue is that the calipers are so wide that they do not clear the inside face of the spokes on most wheels.  To clear the calipers, the spokes need to be out towards the face of the wheel and not too thick.

I have Lenso Como wheels on my G6E.

From the image it looks to me like the Lenso spec e wheels might fit.

Where in Sydney are you?  I have bought another set of 6 piston calipers which I am planning to install on my BA wagon.  I also have a disc and front upright, so it should be easy to arrange a test fit with your wheels.

 

2.  If you look at places selling Brembos for Falcons, the calipers and brackets are sold together.  I wanted to use braided lines as I fitted them to an NA BA wagon and they made a nice difference.

 

3.  I am not sure of the brand of the pads - they came with the calipers when I got them and had heaps of material left.  I bought Bendix Ulitimate discs.

I could not tell you the difference between 4 and 6 piston front brakes.

[greasemonkey]

I'm in the middle of Sydney near Parramatta. Are you saying you have two sets of 6 piston brembo brakes?

From what you have posted XR6tForMe, you have a b series falcon. Happy to have a trial fit if the b-series falcon is the same as the fg regarding wheels and brakes.

People are wanting lots of cash for brakes. 4 piston calipers only with no rears that are used, people are asking $2,000. Don't know what it is for 6 piston but have seen one ad for $3,500 with and without rotors.

Pads make a big difference. My ultimate pads help the car way better now (I have slotted and drilled rotors), but still at about 100-110km/h going into a corner you still need to allow ample time to pull up. I was out the other night driving on some tight turns and corners and after about 4 or 5 brakes, I started to get brake fade. Let off the pedal and then it was back to normal. Convinced me to get 6 piston setup if the bank and availability can afford it. Shame the FG has a bit of flab on it, that extra weight isn't great!

Inbox me if its possible to do a fit of the wheel anytime. Thanks so much.

[k31th]

You'll still get the same brake fade with 6 vs 4 pot brembos, basically... what you need to do is upgrade your fluid to a higher DOT (e.g. higher boiling point etc) and braided lines if you don't have 'em.

[greasemonkey]

I don't get much at the moment but still it is noticeable when braking regularly at moderate speed on twisty roads. Would think the 6 piston brakes wouldn't work as hard so it would be better.

 

I'm using Castrol DOT 4. So does that mean I go for DOT 5? I don't have braided lines. How much of the brake line can be braided ADR Approved. I've read different forum accounts of information about the legality of it all, in NSW particularly. I've got standard falcon rubber hoses currently.

[k31th]

well the lines just give you better feel... you don't absolutely need them, but the upgrade to DOT5 or DOT6 would be a good idea

[xr6tForMe]

14 hours ago, greasemonkey said:

I'm in the middle of Sydney near Parramatta. Are you saying you have two sets of 6 piston brembo brakes?

From what you have posted XR6tForMe, you have a b series falcon. Happy to have a trial fit if the b-series falcon is the same as the fg regarding wheels and brakes.

People are wanting lots of cash for brakes. 4 piston calipers only with no rears that are used, people are asking $2,000. Don't know what it is for 6 piston but have seen one ad for $3,500 with and without rotors.

Pads make a big difference. My ultimate pads help the car way better now (I have slotted and drilled rotors), but still at about 100-110km/h going into a corner you still need to allow ample time to pull up. I was out the other night driving on some tight turns and corners and after about 4 or 5 brakes, I started to get brake fade. Let off the pedal and then it was back to normal. Convinced me to get 6 piston setup if the bank and availability can afford it. Shame the FG has a bit of flab on it, that extra weight isn't great!

Inbox me if its possible to do a fit of the wheel anytime. Thanks so much.

You are not that far from me.

Yes, I now have 2 sets of 6 piston front brakes.

I have an FG and a BA,  The brakes are the same as far as clearance goes.

 

Brembos for Falcons are not cheap, but are good!

 

I will sort out a time with you to test that your wheels fit.

 

12 hours ago, k31th said:

You'll still get the same brake fade with 6 vs 4 pot brembos, basically...

I have seen that said, but it does not make sense to me.

The 6 piston pads are larger than the 4 piston pads, so friction/heat would be lower across the whole area and heat dissipation would be higher.

The 6 piston calipers are larger than the 4 piston calipers, so again, heat handling should be higher.

Those 2 things should make a difference.

Also why would Ford have both, if the 6 piston was not better?