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Trying to gather information to start preparing for a Barra swap into an 02 Mustang GT.

If there is anyone who could measure from the front of the engine to the shifter on a T56 transmission it would be appreciated.

I am also curious to know if there are any downsides to using a BA motor vs BF if I am going to be installing forged rods and pistons anyways.

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Long story short, (kinda)...

I installed a Procharger on my 2 valve 4.6 Mustang. Ported heads with decent sized cams but 100% stock bottom end. Put down 442/420 to the wheels. Ran a 11.9 @ 114 mph

For sure had more in it if I could drive but only made 1 trip to the track last year. Enjoyed this set up for nearly 2 years.

Racing an Evo, the stock powdered rod finally went boom. (Thankfully I won the race)

I blew not one but TWO holes in the block.

I knew it would happen eventually, had a few things ready like Forged pistons to build a higher powered 4.6 but here I am..... Going all out for a Barra. Sold the 4.6 pistons today actually.

 

So far what I have gathered is, get a BA engine, forged rods and pistons,oil pump gears, head studs, and valve springs. Believe I'll need a rear sump, and want to do a T56. And obviously a turbo and manifold.....

 

I appreciate any advice or help anyone wants to provide.

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Mate for all the cost and stuffing around you'd be better off doing a turbo LS. They are a dime a dozen over there and the price to performance can't be touched by a barra.

 

Check out Richard Holdener on YouTube. He's shown nearly every LS combo there is and makes tons of power with minimal modifications.

 

Sloppy also has a goldmine of information.

 

But...If you want the rear sump hump, buy a FG engine.

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Mannnnnnn I saw that one coming...

But not from someone on here! Haha.

 

Yes I know a little of LS land, no I am not interested. Yes it would be cheaper.

Sloppy and his memes are #1 though and I have watched some of the youtubes of megasquirt tuning classes he did.

 

Anyways......

Im not 100% sure I'll need a rear sump with the k member I will be using but I may.

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Haha I love all the cars and all the engines.

 

There are a couple of things that need swapping with the sump. The windage tray is different, the oil pick up is different as well as the main bolt location to secure it, the dipstick is in a different location but the provision is still in the block.

 

As for other stuff, there have been plenty of built engines with write ups on here. Just chuck in "built engine" or "built motor" into the search bar and you'll be golden. I'd link some stuff for you but I'm on my phone and it's a pain in the butt to do so.

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Good info about the sump swap if needed, thank you!

I have been working my way through lots of discussions reading all I can during breaks at work.

I too love all the cars, but I love the Fords a little more 🤪

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Not a very exciting picture but here is a picture of how too far back the shifter is compared to factory hole in the car. 

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As far as the engine, it hangs in there nicely. Will just need to somehow relocate the cylinder head temp sensor at some point....

Going to space k member 1/2" down mainly to help with transmission placement and then make the decision as to if I shall chop a hole and make the shifter work where it is. This would be much easier if I just gutted interior like proper race car but I dont wanna! :wild:

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I set my seat back in the car and tried it out, dont think it will be that bad with a short shifter.

Heres a link to an update video I made, haven't had much time lately but when I have I have been hitting the wiring hard lately. 

 

 

I received my 6boost manifold and Atomic timing kit this week, amazingly fast shipping time and email support from Golebys. 

 

Thankfully the little wastegate pipe off the manifold does clear the strut tower, but now trying to decide what to do about the big turbo compressor outlet flange bumping into the manifold runners.

 

I believe I will try to run CP-Carrillo rods and pistons. Currently trying to decide about valves because I know the N/A ones wont handle the heat. 

 

Any suggestions for a nice set of valves? Only place I have contact thus far is Supertech about their inconel valves.

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Look ma, no hands!

 

Finally finished up motor mounts. 

Getting ready to order ARP Studs, ACL HX Bearings, and a Ross Damper.

 

From what I understand, the extra .001 clearance the HX bearings have is prefered in moderate power/bigger boost with these engines. 

 

Also, does anyone know of anyone running a spool girdle? The ad says compatible with OEM Windage tray, caps, sump. Its a 10mm. 

I have read others doing modifications when using the atomic girdle but havent seen any spool examples yet. 

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