Puffwagon Puff Gold Donating Members 15,116 Member For: 9y 2m 20d Gender: Male Location: South Australia Posted 16/07/22 12:39 PM Author Share Posted 16/07/22 12:39 PM Haha not me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puffwagon Puff Gold Donating Members 15,116 Member For: 9y 2m 20d Gender: Male Location: South Australia Posted 21/07/22 03:17 AM Author Share Posted 21/07/22 03:17 AM The Turbosmart turbo oil regulator and Innovate ECB-1 have arrived. I've also bought a Bluestreak billet 6r80 planetary which will be fitted to the trans before the engine goes back in. I have decided to upgrade the planetary gearset in the transmission as the stock ones aren't reliable at high horsepower. The stock ones have thrust washers that can run dry and weld together with extended high hp pulls, and when that happens they can break the gear housing and/or strip gears. Either way is not a good outcome and can destroy the front half of your trans. The upgrade has bearings which will keep the oil where it needs to be. While I do have spares I'd rather spend the money now and not have to repair it later when it breaks. I'm looking forward to the kids going back to school next week so I can get out there and start making it happen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k31th less WHY; more WOT Site Developer 28,291 Member For: 16y 9d Gender: Male Location: Melbourne Posted 21/07/22 03:33 AM Share Posted 21/07/22 03:33 AM sounds like a good plan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puffwagon Puff Gold Donating Members 15,116 Member For: 9y 2m 20d Gender: Male Location: South Australia Posted 21/07/22 03:50 AM Author Share Posted 21/07/22 03:50 AM I wasn't gonna do it but figured I'd rather do it now while the trans is easy to pull apart. I can leave the trans in the car to replace it, so much easier doing it now than having to remove the trans cos the engine is in the way! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Tucker Donating Members 614 Member For: 4y 9m 19d Posted 21/07/22 10:01 PM Share Posted 21/07/22 10:01 PM So how does that differ from a fully built ZF? Still stock clutch packs? Input shaft? Is it a difficult job to upgrade the gearset? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puffwagon Puff Gold Donating Members 15,116 Member For: 9y 2m 20d Gender: Male Location: South Australia Posted 22/07/22 02:26 AM Author Share Posted 22/07/22 02:26 AM I snapped my input shaft at roll racing last year and sent my trans off for upgrades. Mine now has a 6r80 input shaft, billet intermediate shaft, soon to be billet planetary, upgraded clutches, dominator modified high stall stock converter and a high volume pan. There are a few more billet and upgrade parts that would go into a "fully built" zf. You'd expect to pay about 20k drive in drive out, minus converter, for the best zf available. Fitting the planetary gear is easy enough. It would take less than an hour to do if the trans was on a bench. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k31th less WHY; more WOT Site Developer 28,291 Member For: 16y 9d Gender: Male Location: Melbourne Posted 22/07/22 02:29 AM Share Posted 22/07/22 02:29 AM who's paying $20k for a fully-built ZF 😮 I thought they were more around the 10-14k mark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biddie_fiddler [IMPULSIV3] Donating Members 1,370 Member For: 5y 21d Gender: Male Location: Perth, WA Posted 22/07/22 02:39 AM Share Posted 22/07/22 02:39 AM I've heard of previous "fully built" ZFs now having some other parts start to fail, I don't know enough about transmissions and what exactly is failing. But it makes sense. Not everything in the box is upgraded, so it stands to reason that they would also start to fail once other parts are replaced for more betterer ones. But if I was given a quote of a "completely bulletproof" zf of 20k, I'd consider just going with a th400 lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puffwagon Puff Gold Donating Members 15,116 Member For: 9y 2m 20d Gender: Male Location: South Australia Posted 22/07/22 04:06 AM Author Share Posted 22/07/22 04:06 AM Yerp my box is rated to 800kw yet it still has a stock planetary in it. It won't break from the power but it will wear out from extended wot runs through the gears. Since my car is a daily driven AWD Territory that does bulk country miles, a th400 is not an economically viable option. I know you can run a lockup converter, use an overdrive, pick the transfer case ratios etc but it cost a lot more to do, haha I already looked into it. Tl;Dr 500kw reliable built box is cheap, 800+kw reliable built box is not. 52 minutes ago, k31th said: who's paying $20k for a fully-built ZF 😮 I thought they were more around the 10-14k mark. I did say drive in, drive out. Fully built is just a phrase people use with varying degrees of accuracy. Fully built, to me at least, means using every billet part and upgrade available. After doing my research, I've found the cost of the parts to take a stock sh*tter to a fresh "fully built" reliable drag box is near the top of that price range, nvm paying for building it, fitting, fluids and tuning etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Tucker Donating Members 614 Member For: 4y 9m 19d Posted 22/07/22 06:25 AM Share Posted 22/07/22 06:25 AM Thanks for the info. I'm lost with autos haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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