Share Posted 02/04/21 10:25 AM Posted 02/04/21 10:25 AM Share 16 minutes ago, violetpop said: One minute its had an easy life in a ba wagon, next minute On 25/08/2020 at 5:00 PM, Puffwagon said: Yerp that will give you part of a stock rebuild. I looked at this option and then I thought well fark if I'm going to spend $500 on pistons I may as well spend enough and get some forged pistons, then I thought well fark it, I'll get upgraded pins too then I thought fark it and got I beam rods too. While it's out and apart; You'll want better rods too, so they'll need sizing and the crank will need linnishing, then you may as well get oil pump gears, then you may as well get main studs which will mean line honing, and if you're getting it line honed then you may as well get a girdle and get the main caps machined to suit, then you may as well do the flex plate cos you may as well while it's out, then you'll want to at least deck the head, then you may as well get the seats re cut while you're there and get a decent set of springs in it, so you may as well get a full atomic timing kit, and of course you'll be forking out for a full vrs kit which will mean that you may as well get a better head gasket, then you may as well get head studs too cos it's only an extra $250, then you may as well get a balancer cos the stock ones are sh*te, then for all that bullsh*t you may as well buy a giant turbo and if you've got a giant turbo then you'll need a beastly fuel system and then you'll put the whole lot together, break your transmission, replace that, break the diff, replace that, go through a set of tyres and axles every 2 weeks and eventually wish that you'd just bought a honda civic and paid off the mortgage instead. But yeah, nothing wrong with a stock rebuild NEK MINUTE Link to post Share on other sites
Share Posted 02/04/21 01:44 PM Posted 02/04/21 01:44 PM Share The standard head gasket is completely fine for a LOT of horsepower, the only reason I would 'upgrade' that gasket from a standard Ford gasket would be to do fire rings, otherwise the only upgrade needed on the head would be the studs themselves. I feel like I have proven the standard gasket goes pretty well throwing 40 plus psi at it without any issues. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Share Posted 03/04/21 11:15 PM Posted 03/04/21 11:15 PM Share Got the rest of the car back together last night and went for a successful road test! Got the cooling system sorted first and got the pressure tester on it while I was doing other things. No leaks! Could it have just been the gasket? Maybe... The car didnt miss a beat on the easy going hour long road test and only time will tell if things hold up. plan is to check things over today and see how everything looks. In the next week I aim to get a new radiator in it and I've also ordered the thermostat housing bleeder for quicker fill ups.Dominator also supplied this spacer type plate which looks to go above the timing cover but I didnt see a need for it as the surfaces were dead flat.I hope the engine is now reliable to have it on the road long enough to smash an axle. 4 Link to post Share on other sites
Share Posted 03/04/21 11:19 PM Posted 03/04/21 11:19 PM Share good result that blue background of your engine bay is so striking when you compare it to exterior colour haha 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Author Share Posted 04/04/21 12:48 AM Posted 04/04/21 12:48 AM Share Its just a mash up of colours that don't really work. Certainly won't be winning any show and shine awards. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Share Posted 04/04/21 04:02 AM Posted 04/04/21 04:02 AM Share Top effort man 👍 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Author Share Posted 04/04/21 07:06 AM Posted 04/04/21 07:06 AM Share Cheers mate! I still would have felt much better to pressure test the head and know for sure its all good. I will see how this holds ups for now. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Share Posted 04/04/21 10:06 AM Posted 04/04/21 10:06 AM Share Been researching radiators and for a good reason. It appears someone has fitted an early ba possibly xt radiator at some point. I've driven the car again and gradually increased the boost. The car rips but it rips to the point where I think its over boosting. Blew the hose off the throttle body twice but getting on it, it starts to turn the tyres so easy in second which it didnt do before.A minute from home, the radiator top hose outlet gave up and the temp started to shoot up just as was coasting into the drive way. Managaned to cool it down pretty quick but what a frantic minute it was. Big fail.. So looks like new rad will be happening sooner rather than later and then move on to working out where all this crazy power has come from. Link to post Share on other sites
Share Posted 04/04/21 10:17 AM Posted 04/04/21 10:17 AM Share 400rwkw will spin up easily in second. Was the dyno sheet from its actual last run on the dyno. I'd say that's when the problem started and we all know how bike riders like to limiter bash all the time 😁. You might have been down on power when you picked it up and just got worse over time. Is it pinging, have you got a boost gauge on it? 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Share Posted 04/04/21 10:22 AM Posted 04/04/21 10:22 AM Share @violetpop Fenix sell a 50mm aluminium radiator for $440, maybe that's worth a try? Or the standard BA/BF XR6 turbo radiator should be 26mm but we sell a 26 and a 32mm thick core from either Adrad or Motogear. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Author Share Posted 04/04/21 10:28 AM Posted 04/04/21 10:28 AM Share Yeah I saw the fenix rad, looks like a nice bit. Was wondering about clearance issues. Will probably end up with a stock 32mm replacement at this stage. 3 hours ago, adams355 said: 400rwkw will spin up easily in second. Was the dyno sheet from its actual last run on the dyno. I'd say that's when the problem started and we all know how bike riders like to limiter bash all the time . You might have been down on power when you picked it up and just got worse over time. Is it pinging, have you got a boost gauge on it? It says run #18 on the sheet. It feels the fastest its ever been. When I picked it up, it would dance on the tyres when getting on it but this is full blown wheel spin and then the hose pops off. I've got 2, pillar mounted and through the torque app. Highest registered was 16psi but again not accurate as the hose comes off. I didn't have a single issue with the hose since fitting it the way jet suggested and about 3 months driving since the tune. I will have to sort the rad out and look at it again. No ping detected. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Share Posted 04/04/21 10:35 AM Posted 04/04/21 10:35 AM Share Yeah I saw the fenix rad, looks like a nice bit. Was wondering about clearance issues. Will probably end up with a stock 32mm replacement at this stage. It fits just fine, I've got mine sitting in the engine bay but I can trial fit the fans and let you know? I was going to change balancer before I fitted the radiator but happy to test fit if you're curious? 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Author Share Posted 04/04/21 10:37 AM Posted 04/04/21 10:37 AM Share Don't go out of your way mate all good. I feel like for what I'll be doing with the car, the stock will be fine Link to post Share on other sites
Share Posted 04/04/21 10:42 AM Posted 04/04/21 10:42 AM Share If you need me to test it just let me know, I'm a long way off reassembly haha. You'll probably pay somewhere between $250-$350 for a stock radiator, that's why I went with the Fenix one. It's worth the investment 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Share Posted 04/04/21 10:44 AM Posted 04/04/21 10:44 AM Share 10 minutes ago, violetpop said: 22 minutes ago, adams355 said: 400rwkw will spin up easily in second. Was the dyno sheet from its actual last run on the dyno. I'd say that's when the problem started and we all know how bike riders like to limiter bash all the time . You might have been down on power when you picked it up and just got worse over time. Is it pinging, have you got a boost gauge on it? It says run #18 on the sheet. It feels the fastest its ever been. When I picked it up, it would dance on the tyres when getting on it but this is full blown wheel spin and then the hose pops off. I've got 2, pillar mounted and through the torque app. Highest registered was 16psi but again not accurate as the hose comes off. I didn't have a single issue with the hose since fitting it the way jet suggested and about 3 months driving since the tune. I will have to sort the rad out and look at it again. No ping detected. Yea I'm not blaming the tuner at all just it might have started the issue on a minor level at that time. Yea 16 on torque app is fine, it can be up to 2-3psi high unless you change some of the settings when you have a proper gauge on it or on the dyno. Jut keep an eye on it I guess. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Share Posted 04/04/21 10:46 AM Posted 04/04/21 10:46 AM Share Maybe your spark plugs/cam timing/coils are/is working properly now? It's amazing what a set of plugs will do. Maybe you fixed a boost leak? 3 Link to post Share on other sites
Author Share Posted 04/04/21 10:54 AM Posted 04/04/21 10:54 AM Share Entirely possible Puff. Fresh plugs and gap set yes, Didnt see anything extremely obvious but the inlet manifold bolts were not as tight as what I did them up to when I put the engine in probably that crappy gasket settling in. Will monitor when things get moving again and I can get this hose to stay on. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Share Posted 06/04/21 10:12 AM Posted 06/04/21 10:12 AM Share Picked up a radiator 32mm variation, fresh hoses and the coolant bottle. The black one was giving me the sh*ts. Just about to head out and see how it goes. 3 Link to post Share on other sites
Author Share Posted 06/04/21 11:38 AM Posted 06/04/21 11:38 AM Share Well the cooling side of things are spot on now but the car sure is over boosting. Foot down 3rd gear and I got out of it straight away. The way the boost came on so quick and strong I backed off immediately. Look down over 20psi then look back to see my rods on the road, nothing luckily.Pulled up at the servo and bypassed the boost solenoid and run it on spring pressure and it kept solid on just under 16.Something has happened and I can't exactly figure out why.. Possibly the engine was hurt right from buying it from the wrecker or as puff mentioned that I fixed something. Either way some dyno time will be in order to correct the issue and this will be the perfect time to lower the boost down to 12 psi or so.For now I plan leave the solenoid disconnected. Link to post Share on other sites
Share Posted 06/04/21 11:44 AM Posted 06/04/21 11:44 AM Share if you've bypassed the solenoid and you're making 16psi you won't be able to go under 16psi without changing the actuator or it's pre-load settings. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Share Posted 06/04/21 12:06 PM Posted 06/04/21 12:06 PM Share What spring have you got in actuator 15-16? This happened to mine once it was the dodgy solenoid which weirdly was working fine, then I had my turbo rebuilt and I put it back on and then it was dead. But I thought yours was tuned to 13-14 or something. Strange. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Share Posted 06/04/21 12:10 PM Posted 06/04/21 12:10 PM Share Yeah for sure.. I played around with this turbo smart actuator when I had it off and couldn't get it to go any lower. I'll probably go back to my stock actuator mate or maybe an fg one. Link to post Share on other sites
Author Share Posted 06/04/21 12:22 PM Posted 06/04/21 12:22 PM Share What spring have you got in actuator 15-16? This happened to mine once it was the dodgy solenoid which weirdly was working fine, then I had my turbo rebuilt and I put it back on and then it was dead. But I thought yours was tuned to 13-14 or something. Strange.I haven't opened it up to confirm the spring but it was supplied as the 12psi version. At the last tune it was tuned at around 15.5 pounds and stayed solid at that boost level until just now since I did the head gasket. I changed the solenoid about a year ago so it hasn't done much work. Link to post Share on other sites
Share Posted 06/04/21 12:34 PM Posted 06/04/21 12:34 PM Share Yea my solenoid was only 12 months old as well. Put it on the dyno was over boosting badly. The turbo smart actuator is better but a pain to set up 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Author Share Posted 06/04/21 12:47 PM Posted 06/04/21 12:47 PM Share Might see if I can dig out my old solenoid to test Link to post Share on other sites
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