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Billet gtx3576 wheel in the baby turbo

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Happy to help out mate ;) 

 

That powersprint turbo must be a bit unique as Typical GTX spec turbos fit direct into factory rear housings, that said a bigger rear wheel isn’t all bad !

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UPDATE 2: Not good news 😕

 

The power of the spirit has let me down. 5 weeks running. ~2000kms

 

No indication of any issues before it died.  Was running perfectly yesterday when I turned it off. Driving to work today, loud whirring noise and no boost.  immediately parked it up pulled off the cold side piping and spun the wheel by hand.  Spins like a really bad bush bearing turbo and clearly not around its axis. Compressor wheel is touching front housing but does not seem to be rubbing the rear as far as I can tell. At the moment seems like a complete and catastrophic bearing failure. Oil feed is fine and coolant fine too. I'll know more when I pull it off this weekend.  Haven't been having much luck lately.

 

Not gonna let it get me down :) . I've contacted the ebay seller to see what they are going to say. I'll keep everything updated here for anyone considering whether its worth trying an ebay turbo out.  I was hoping for at least a year out of it before having to deal with this.

 

So yeah, funtimes.

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oh well... cheap ebay turbo's are a risk, that's for sure... glad you're back here telling us about it rather than just re-purchasing the expensive one...

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TBH it was worth the experiment. $700 after selling my broken gt3576.  So if it had held in for any length of time, for the price of a secondhand stock turbo, it was pretty good. Just a pity about the reliability. Might have been a one off fail, but it failed.

 

And now anyone googling Powerspirit GTX3576r Turbo will have a good rundown of what they are like and what the 'warranty' and service is like from those selling them.

 

1 hour ago, k31th said:

glad you're back here telling us about it rather than just re-purchasing the expensive one...

 

 

Yeah, no skin off my neck.  Massive inconvenience but if it wasnt this it'd be something else.  Still deciding what I'm going to do. Big price difference between anything and a genuine garrett 🤣. Could test out quite a few eBay turbos for you boys. hahaha.

 

Picture just because :)

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cheeped out, piss 700 down the drain, new turbo, re tune? fitting and labour. would be cheaper to do it right the first time but poor man pays twice strikes again. 

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I had to check coz you made me think I was wrong. They don't run the V10 anymore.  Not that that was a terrible motor.  I guess emissions forced them to go twin turbo v8.  Not sure if they are garretts though. So might not make the cut?

 

https://www.carsales.com.au/cars/details/2018-audi-rs6-performance-auto-quattro-my18/OAG-AD-17412277/?Cr=0&gts=OAG-AD-17412277&gtsSaleId=OAG-AD-17412277&gtsViewType=TopSpot&rankingType=TopSpot

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Audi’s electric over mechanical  turbocharger is hectic nuts ! But you’ll bend way over more than Garrett prices lol 

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UPDATE 3: Powerspirit GTX GTX3576 (KSRacingPRO)

 

So... only just got around to pulling the turbo off. Pretty good at it now 😄. Got it down to around 40mins with a bit of mucking around included.

 

As expected KSRacingPRO has been silent at the moment on my email to them about warranty etc. I'll try them again tonight but not holding my breath.

 

I have attached images of the damage.  All in all, its not that bad. Only 3 fins managed to rub the housing. Rear housing is fine.

 

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Shaft out and "there's your problem"

 

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Flaps just coz everyone loves a good flap

 

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Conclusion: Cheap chinese bearings gave way in my Powerspirit GTX3576 from KSRacingPRO (SEO :P ).  Turbo is well oiled. Everything is coated. I have logs of all my tuning and daily running and oil temps, water temps and ERGs are all well in check. 

 

 

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In other news, I've sourced a new Genuine GTX3576 gen 2 for stupid cheap. Just over 2k Complete and is getting overnight-ed ex-east coast. So with any luck the car will be back on the road thursday night.  If I had budgeted originally for a genuine GTX I guess I'd still have money for another powerspirit or 2 plus the dead one 😄 . Maybe a spare mamba? no?

 

Anyways, im going to rebuild this Powerspirit and get it balanced. Use it in another car.  Cheap, easy fun. Seriously the baby GTX is so fun. Response and spool just puts a smile on your face haha. Can't wait to see how much better the GEN 2 is.

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Doing it right the 2nd time, it appears :spoton:  Keen to see the results of this gen2 you've purchased.

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On 21/08/2019 at 7:50 PM, Admin (as if) said:

is that 2k with rear? new? where from?

2.2k off ebay with rear.

 

Installed last night. And I'm back up and running. Just got to touch the tune up a little as the boost comes on differently and holds better in the higher revs.  It's induction noise is much more refined than the powerspirit. Less boy racer more bmw m3 hahah.

 

Car off the road for 5 days is a pretty good turn around.

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Not much too learn from you mate. Other than not to be poor when modifying cars coz it makes you bitter and jaded.

 

Maybe I should part my car out so you can feel like you've made all the 'right' decisions.  Seems like there's only one way to do things. Must be why your always right. Hows that working out for ya.

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