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On 5/17/2017 at 11:59 AM, Ralph Wiggum said:

im not here trying to be some sort of internet salebrity 

 

 Lol I finally googled it.  :spit: That's you in a nutshell bud.

 

On 5/17/2017 at 11:59 AM, Ralph Wiggum said:

no need for me to get involved

 

Gets involved immediately with memes and smart arse remarks.

 

The water affecting you blokes much?! :roflmbo:

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1 hour ago, demon1300 said:

Can someone already put one of these on anad post some results!

 

motor lab in campbellfield have fitted one to a g6e.

its on their facebook.

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Yeah cheers. Looks pretty decent although don't know why you'd go to all that effort with the other mods and then run a sh*tty single 044 for fueling. I'd be keen to see the max results on pump 98. Looks like it would have a good low to mid 500 on E85 on moderate boost

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9 hours ago, demon1300 said:

No one else got experience with these yet? Working out whether or not to go one of these or efr 9180

 

I would recommend the Borg Warner S369sx-E over the efr 9180, Its better suited to our engine requirements. Also can be low mounted on standard Fg manifold.

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Granted the EFR has a ball bearing core, but the compressor efficiency drops off too soon. Attached are the compressor charts of both turbos with a plot for approximately 700 crank hp at 23psi. Plot point 1 = 2000rpm, 2 = 3000rpm, 3 = 4000rpm, 4 = 5000rpm, 5 = 6000rpm 6 = 6500rpm.

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Yeah look don't get me wrong, I've done all the numbers and looked at all the data, which is why I keep asking the questions around how good the 9180 really is. Everyone I talk to, Nizpro included say that its not something that you can quantify in numbers. They apparently feel amaaaaazing and the numbers just really don't so them justice.

I'm a facts guy also, so find this "touchy feely" stuff hard to accept but can't ignore the wrap that these turbos get. Everyone that compliments them simply says, "you've just got to drive one to see what I mean". I guess the transient response and early boost is what makes the EFR's so appealing for street use. Not sure why the sxe has such high choke flow and appears to like less boost than the efr.

I think I'll have to go efr, although might be holding off a little. I'll just leave these here...

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Lol I was going to leave a comment on the other thread saying that a bigger single efr might be as good or better than the smaller singles.

 

Edit: bigger than the 9180.

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Yeah I saw the release photos from Sema, although I'm not sure if they even have a release date for them yet. But of the two, the 91x81 would be my pick.


Yeah same. I believe they've gone to a 73mm inducer imho, this is where the original should have sat as 68mm was always a bit small for the exducer size.
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I have just fitted a GTX3584RS with new mainfolds etc to my FG F6. I won't get into the list of mods it does have a Nizpro motor, just the start of this topic you were looking for some feedback.

 

I hope you can see the hub dyno run with link I have attached a link to the video, it is on 25psi on E85. Just for your information the car pulled an extra 14 rwkw's earlier in the day, we backed it of as it is maxing out my current fuel pump (not standard). With a bigger fuel pump it should pull 600rwkw with more boost or perhaps a little more we will find at some point. My tuner said at 25psi at the higher boot levels the turbo is getting to its efficiency range.

 

https://photos.google.com/photo/AF1QipNg4fdyOCQHeY3udWSPtXIRNmuxZP32Y9nPB1LG

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