boost69 Donating Members 737 Member For: 20y 2m 1d Posted 01/07/14 09:24 AM Share Posted 01/07/14 09:24 AM Guys, The last few months I have noticed by BF T seems a bit sluggish from a transmission point of view.If the car is cruising along at say 60kph, and you slightly depress the accelerator, it just stays in the same gear and hence it's not as responsive, which is quite annoying.The same type of scenario in my FG, you notice the transmission smoothly drop to the next gear and the car surges forward.I have also noticed the BF has been more reluctant to kick down when you put the pedal to the medal, and has a tendency to just stretch out the gear it was in, rather than drop to a lower gear.If by chance it does do a kick down, it won't actually rev out the lower gear first before engaging the higher gear, and will swiftly change the higher gear, before its actually revved the lower gear out.Anyone experience anything like this?Oil is full and the car has an air to oil tranny cooler...The car has done over 220K KMS...so I'm thinking it could be a wear and tear issue? Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/88633-lazy-zf/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
discostig Manual mode ________________________ All day, erryday Donating Members 13,798 Member For: 17y 7m 26d Gender: Male Location: Probably above atmospheric pressure Posted 01/07/14 10:48 AM Share Posted 01/07/14 10:48 AM You know it's an adaptive box right? It changes this exact type of behaviour based on how you are driving it over extended periods. Seems you haven't been flooring it enough.The answer? Manual mode, all day, erryday. It's what I do, also avoids unexpected kickdowns in the wet. 3 Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/88633-lazy-zf/#findComment-1482216 Share on other sites More sharing options...
barnz Member 3,047 Member For: 11y 8m Gender: Male Location: Brisbane Posted 01/07/14 02:01 PM Share Posted 01/07/14 02:01 PM (edited) You know it's an adaptive box right? It changes this exact type of behaviour based on how you are driving it over extended periods. Seems you haven't been flooring it enough.The answer? Manual mode, all day, erryday. It's what I do, also avoids unexpected kickdowns in the wet.If you push your foot down aggressively but not like a hammer you will feel a stop, this is 100% throttle without kick down. Push a little harder and you will feel a little resistance and sort of a click and the pedal will go to the carpet basically, that's the kick down. It will kick down every time if your the sort of driver that kicks the pedal through the fire wall. This is on a fg anyway.Sorry for the rant if you were already awareBesides real men always kick down in the wet Edited 01/07/14 02:05 PM by barnz Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/88633-lazy-zf/#findComment-1482272 Share on other sites More sharing options...
discostig Manual mode ________________________ All day, erryday Donating Members 13,798 Member For: 17y 7m 26d Gender: Male Location: Probably above atmospheric pressure Posted 01/07/14 03:02 PM Share Posted 01/07/14 03:02 PM (edited) Yeah there is always the detent to really make it understand you want to drop a gear (...or 3! Even if you are in manual mode). It will down shift without that though, and I've even had it drop from 4th to 3rd once when it could have gone to second, despite me mashing it to the floor!Manual modeAll dayErryday Edited 01/07/14 03:04 PM by -SteveR- Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/88633-lazy-zf/#findComment-1482284 Share on other sites More sharing options...
old_mate Member 767 Member For: 19y 5m 7d Gender: Male Location: Brisbane Posted 01/07/14 09:56 PM Share Posted 01/07/14 09:56 PM If you push your foot down aggressively but not like a hammer you will feel a stop, this is 100% throttle without kick down. Push a little harder and you will feel a little resistance and sort of a click and the pedal will go to the carpet basically, that's the kick down. It will kick down every time if your the sort of driver that kicks the pedal through the fire wall. This is on a fg anyway.I may be wrong but these things have a drive by wire throttle with no feedback on the pedal Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/88633-lazy-zf/#findComment-1482302 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buf-Phoon loitering with intent Lifetime Members 13,318 Member For: 21y 11m 1d Gender: Male Location: Zombie Birdhouse Posted 01/07/14 11:37 PM Share Posted 01/07/14 11:37 PM like SteveR manual mode all the way. Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/88633-lazy-zf/#findComment-1482314 Share on other sites More sharing options...
barnz Member 3,047 Member For: 11y 8m Gender: Male Location: Brisbane Posted 02/07/14 12:04 AM Share Posted 02/07/14 12:04 AM (edited) I may be wrong but these things have a drive by wire throttle with no feedback on the pedalYeah they certainly do(have DBW), pretty sure what I was referring to is just a switch. Edited 02/07/14 12:04 AM by barnz 1 Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/88633-lazy-zf/#findComment-1482320 Share on other sites More sharing options...
discostig Manual mode ________________________ All day, erryday Donating Members 13,798 Member For: 17y 7m 26d Gender: Male Location: Probably above atmospheric pressure Posted 02/07/14 03:12 AM Share Posted 02/07/14 03:12 AM Yeah the detent is definitely there, hop in your car with it off and push the pedal down smoothly all the way to the floor, you'll feel it . I think it's designed so that in an emergency where you stamp the pedal it will kick down as much as it can regardless of if you are in manual mode or not, so you can avoid that incoming train or whatever 1 Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/88633-lazy-zf/#findComment-1482345 Share on other sites More sharing options...
barnz Member 3,047 Member For: 11y 8m Gender: Male Location: Brisbane Posted 02/07/14 03:19 AM Share Posted 02/07/14 03:19 AM And this is how tuners do a 4th gear pull at WOT without kicking down. Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/88633-lazy-zf/#findComment-1482347 Share on other sites More sharing options...
discostig Manual mode ________________________ All day, erryday Donating Members 13,798 Member For: 17y 7m 26d Gender: Male Location: Probably above atmospheric pressure Posted 02/07/14 03:29 AM Share Posted 02/07/14 03:29 AM Yeah good point, never thought about that! Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/88633-lazy-zf/#findComment-1482349 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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