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Fg Xr6 Turbo Stall And Keep Shut Off After Tune

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can some one please help me out, I have an 2010 xr6 turbo auto. recently got it tuned, it also got upgrade injector, herrod pot style air intake, de cat pipe, also I add an turbo smart bov.

the problem occar from day one when I got my car tuned, it drives fine on normal speed, but when ever it has to stop at an light or roundbout, where I need reduce speed, I see the rev will drop below 500 rpm, and the car some time shut it self down, I need put it in p and restart.

it's so annoying, I try to clean my air flow meter and throttle body scencer first, did not help, take it back to my tuner, he can't find out what's wrong with it, I took it to ford, they said I just got to live with it as it;s not there problem after the car has being tuned.

very frastrated now, has any one with an tuned xr6 turbo has the same problem? what could be cause all that? please help me out if any one know, thanks

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go back to the tuner and demand it to be fixed. I had the same issue with my last car a BA MKII turbo that I got tuned it was idling rough and stalling but my tuner sorted it out took him about 6 hrs but he did it. Dont ask me what he did as I have no idea.

What state are you in?

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I had this problem when I bought a FG that had been tuned by a tuner. I think the previous owner sold it because of this issue.

I have solved my problem but its a little hard to explain.

Did you have this problem prior to the tune?.

Did the tuner tune using your virgin Ford tune downloaded from your car, or did he upload an already made up tune.

Check what the OS ID is for your original tune is and for the tuners tune. For eg HAEE5L3.

But ultimately the way Ford tuned the FGs past a certain build date can cause idle issues and more so when tuned from what I have worked out from analysing factory ford tunes using HP Tuner.

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Hi thanks for the reply. I never had any problems before the tune. I think it was a load program. As my tuner say every other car has the same program. The idle gets very low to a point the car turn it self off. What can I do to fix this problem? Cause my tuner simple Don. T know what could cause it.

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Where are you located??

From my experience it is very important to start off with a virgin Ford tune that was meant for the car and tune from there when these problems arise.

No point trying to fix that tune he put in. At best you can make it better but not fix IMO.

What did he use to tune . SCT or HP tuners.

PM me the tuner if you can.

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I had the same problem but mine wasnt from a tune, my battery was almost dead. I changed the battery and cleaned the throttle body and that fixed it for me

dont know if this applies to you but thought id give you my input.

my symptoms were the exact same as you described.

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I got a brand new battery, also got the thoittle body cleaned, only thing I suspect now is the bov, it does not seem leaking, but could the bov cause the problem? I also got my spark plug changed by my tuner, gapped at 0.6, could that cause the problem? I don't mind engine stall, but that shut off problem some time really scary, you never know when it's going to happen

I had this problem when I bought a FG that had been tuned by a tuner. I think the previous owner sold it because of this issue.

I have solved my problem but its a little hard to explain.

Did you have this problem prior to the tune?.

Did the tuner tune using your virgin Ford tune downloaded from your car, or did he upload an already made up tune.

Check what the OS ID is for your original tune is and for the tuners tune. For eg HAEE5L3.

But ultimately the way Ford tuned the FGs past a certain build date can cause idle issues and more so when tuned from what I have worked out from analysing factory ford tunes using HP Tuner.

thanks a lot for the reply mate, I stay in auckland nz, I try to sent you pm but won't allow me, my tuner is robin from torque performance. can you please flick him an email robin.vanvelden@honda.co.nz just say mike with the purple xr6 turbo stall problem solution, I got no idea either is robin, the problem just getting worse and worse, it stall to a point I need restart my car every stop light, I took it to ford they got no idea either. if keep doing this, I might have to sell my car too, hope can solve this problem, thank you so much

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You wouldnt have to sell the car . You could remove the injectors (what brand and size are they ?) and put the stock tune back in and drive normal again until your tuner can find the issue in the tune. Turbotrana has spent a lot of time on a similar issue and may steer your tuner in the right direction .

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Where are you located??

From my experience it is very important to start off with a virgin Ford tune that was meant for the car and tune from there when these problems arise.

No point trying to fix that tune he put in. At best you can make it better but not fix IMO.

What did he use to tune . SCT or HP tuners.

PM me the tuner if you can.

thanks a lot for the reply mate, I stay in auckland nz, I try to sent you pm but won't allow me, my tuner is robin from torque performance. can you please flick him an email robin.vanvelden@honda.co.nz just say mike with the purple xr6 turbo stall problem solution, I got no idea either is robin, the problem just getting worse and worse, it stall to a point I need restart my car every stop light, I took it to ford they got no idea either. if keep doing this, I might have to sell my car too, hope can solve this problem, thank you so much

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I will email your tuner. I am pretty sure it has nothing to do with mechanical. You could check the alignment of the throttle plate in the throttle body and make sure it shuts nicely. If it doesn't you undo the screws a teeny, realign with the throttle plate shut and do the screws up, but would most likely only contribute to the problem.

IMO it is the way Ford tuned the FGs after a certain build date. BA to BFs are tuned differently and don't have this issue and from what I can see some early FGs.

And you just cant change those few parameters in the later FG tune to say a BF tune paramenters cause I think there are many other paramemters we don't have access to that would need to be changed for this to be effective.

I just tune my own car, so this is my current theory from my analysis. Its really hard to make heads or tails with this Ford tuning stuff cause there is no instruction manual, the tuning program is reverse engineered and flashing changes to see how things react is very time consuming.

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I will email your tuner. I am pretty sure it has nothing to do with mechanical. You could check the alignment of the throttle plate in the throttle body and make sure it shuts nicely. If it doesn't you undo the screws a teeny, realign with the throttle plate shut and do the screws up, but would most likely only contribute to the problem.

IMO it is the way Ford tuned the FGs after a certain build date. BA to BFs are tuned differently and don't have this issue and from what I can see some early FGs.

And you just cant change those few parameters in the later FG tune to say a BF tune paramenters cause I think there are many other paramemters we don't have access to that would need to be changed for this to be effective.

I just tune my own car, so this is my current theory from my analysis. Its really hard to make heads or tails with this Ford tuning stuff cause there is no instruction manual, the tuning program is reverse engineered and flashing changes to see how things react is very time consuming.

thanks a lot mate, please tell my tuner what should do to fix the rough idle problem, mine idle always seem to drop below 500 rpm, that's where the problem starts to happen, both of us got no idea why it's doing that, I had an ba falcon that the same tuner done before, it has no problem at all, mine fg xr6 turbo is the 2010 version, not sure what mointh, from day 1 I got it tuned, my car starts to drop rev and shut down, I took it back to the tuner , he fix something, seems improving, than it all came back, again. really annoying. I not sure what tune he use, he did not give me an sct box, he only set the tune. also he changed my spark plugs, I not sure if that could also cause the problem, as he gap it around 0.6. I cleaned both of my throttle body and air flow meter recently, no help at all, it would be really helpful if you can let him know what might be cause of it, thanks

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there is normally multiple tune strategy's for what appear similar cars, it is wise to always build a tune on the correct strategy.

Your plug gap is too small

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there is normally multiple tune strategy's for what appear similar cars, it is wise to always build a tune on the correct strategy.

Your plug gap is too small

what gap I should set at? my tuner told me he set the boost at 1 bar, spark plug gap 0.6, I had some rough idle with the ba falcon when I change the spark plug, a re gap fix the problem. I will try re gap my fg spark plug see if that help

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Not that its of much help but had a similar problem with my car and sent it back to the tuner until they fixed it. It is in the tune and not the hardware based on my experience. Get your tuner to contact some of the good tuners over here in Aus and some may be willing to offer some advice

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I emailed your tuner and will await a reply. I can only offer suggestions. As someone said before it is up to the tuner to sort out. If he cant ask him to put the stock injectors and tune back in, refund your money and take it to someone else.

As Ratter said, my first check would be whether he tuned from the original tune strategy or loaded a different strategy tune that still ran the car.

0.6 gap does not help idle either , try .8 to .9mm.

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I emailed your tuner and will await a reply. I can only offer suggestions. As someone said before it is up to the tuner to sort out. If he cant ask him to put the stock injectors and tune back in, refund your money and take it to someone else.

As Ratter said, my first check would be whether he tuned from the original tune strategy or loaded a different strategy tune that still ran the car.

0.6 gap does not help idle either , try .8 to .9mm.

Thank you so much for your help mate. Let me know if there.s any update. I will call my tuner Monday see what he can do. Cheers

I emailed your tuner and will await a reply. I can only offer suggestions. As someone said before it is up to the tuner to sort out. If he cant ask him to put the stock injectors and tune back in, refund your money and take it to someone else.

As Ratter said, my first check would be whether he tuned from the original tune strategy or loaded a different strategy tune that still ran the car.

0.6 gap does not help idle either , try .8 to .9mm.

mate sorry I give you the wrong email address, it's robin@torqueperformance.co.nz , I just speak to my tuner, his a very nice guy, he is very happy to fix my problem, just give him some instruction how you done it cause he got no idea , thanks a lot mate

I emailed your tuner and will await a reply. I can only offer suggestions. As someone said before it is up to the tuner to sort out. If he cant ask him to put the stock injectors and tune back in, refund your money and take it to someone else.

As Ratter said, my first check would be whether he tuned from the original tune strategy or loaded a different strategy tune that still ran the car.

0.6 gap does not help idle either , try .8 to .9mm.

robin@torqueperformance,co.nz

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I pointed him in the direction I would go and gave him a copy of a fg tune that gives an excellent return to idle to compare against the latter FG tunes that seem to be problematic in the return to idle area. (note you just cant copy settings from one strategy to another and think its gonna work cause it doesnt but its does show a few areas that were changed in the latter tunes that seem to be the area of concern)

But in giving this info its still a PIA to sort out because having to flash each change to see how it reacts is just so time consuming so whilst it can be improved it may not be perfect.

It is very important to tell us how this goes as we may not be so helpful should you not give a followup.

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I pointed him in the direction I would go and gave him a copy of a fg tune that gives an excellent return to idle to compare against the latter FG tunes that seem to be problematic in the return to idle area. (note you just cant copy settings from one strategy to another and think its gonna work cause it doesnt but its does show a few areas that were changed in the latter tunes that seem to be the area of concern) But in giving this info its still a PIA to sort out because having to flash each change to see how it reacts is just so time consuming so whilst it can be improved it may not be perfect. It is very important to tell us how this goes as we may not be so helpful should you not give a followup.

Thanks mate. Has my tuner reply yet? Hope can get this problem sorted soon

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I pointed him in the direction I would go and gave him a copy of a fg tune that gives an excellent return to idle to compare against the latter FG tunes that seem to be problematic in the return to idle area. (note you just cant copy settings from one strategy to another and think its gonna work cause it doesnt but its does show a few areas that were changed in the latter tunes that seem to be the area of concern)

But in giving this info its still a PIA to sort out because having to flash each change to see how it reacts is just so time consuming so whilst it can be improved it may not be perfect.

It is very important to tell us how this goes as we may not be so helpful should you not give a followup.

Mate I got my tuner did an virgin tune on the sct tuner today. Still having the low rev stall problem. He state that I should try a different brand of injectors might help. Could you please sent him another email for some advice. Thanks a lot

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You got to stick to one thread mate.

I did speak to him but there was no real communication from his side mate. It was a little bit like talking to myself.

We all really want to help you mate (except maybe Jet who just wants to screw with your head) but the nature of the problem is such that it just may be easier to get a new tuner.

You can try and get him to email me the "stalling tune" in HP Tuner format but somehow I don't think he has the inclination cause he may think he is a tooner and I am not. He has my email and has had the opportunity to talk to me but has not. Good luck mate. Rome wasn't built in a day.

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