NickBA-XR6T Bronze Donating Members 386 Member For: 10y 10m 23d Posted 21/02/13 04:50 AM Share Posted 21/02/13 04:50 AM freeze don't be nasty he is on his second Kindy home reader! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrs Jeturbo Bob the Freaking Builder Donating Members 10,757 Member For: 13y 4m 22d Gender: Female Location: SA Posted 21/02/13 05:01 AM Share Posted 21/02/13 05:01 AM Actualy tbh im amazed at how knowledageable tranny is and how much he reads... only about this kind of stuff mind u.. anyhing else hes all pictures lol...I think its great that hes taking on something hes passionate about...One day he might be a professional tuner who knows... Then I can have a tuner husband and a tuner boyfriend Cozmeandmickhaveathinggoing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Impellor Member 835 Member For: 12y 6m 14d Gender: Not Telling Posted 21/02/13 05:15 AM Share Posted 21/02/13 05:15 AM there is no magic number that suits all cars when timing is involved, as mentioned already, 2 similar cars may require different spark values, which is why one reason generic tunes are not a good idea. As far as a safe number that's an individual thing and engine design can have an affect on this as well, but I have to have a laugh when I see guys posting on here about there tuner is that good that there was not a sign of ping during the whole tuning process, great but how close to the knock threshold are they, you do not know this until you get it to ping lightly and then back away from that point. Hopefully your tafe has a wolf or microtech etc for you guys to play with, these offer live tuning but are very very basic compared to the late model factory ecu and will be easier to learn on before venturing onto more complex systemsI get the feeling that your talking about me Mick. Is it possible that some tuners are better, and more experienced than others. Therefore having a fair idea of thresholds, thus not having to venture into undesirable conditions ? Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratter Member 6,793 Member For: 16y 8m 7d Gender: Male Location: @ my laptop Posted 21/02/13 05:21 AM Share Posted 21/02/13 05:21 AM talking about a few actually, but unless a tuner has a crystal ball, then no, nobody knows until that limit has been reached, they can guess, but as mentioned earlier all cars are different.Many people rate their tuner on how much power the car makes, to be honest making power is the easy part, get the afr where you want it, get the boost where you want it and then feed spark to it anyone can do that, there's no magic, driveability and manners combined with power, show more about the tuners skill than the power output.I see all sorts of dyno charts posted here and elsewhere, many look very good but again do not tell the full story, some look very average but the customer is happy anyway. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JETURBO ...JD TUNING ADELAIDE... Gold Donating Members 23,707 Member For: 14y 8m 3d Gender: Male Location: Adelaide Posted 21/02/13 05:41 AM Author Share Posted 21/02/13 05:41 AM Iam all ears and really want to disreguard what I think I know for what I can prove and learn Earlie days and ill up date as I learn for anyone else who maybe intrestedAll I know is that they have autronic sm4 units and its all real time stuff, the hot tip is its easier to tune on the engine dyno and progress from there The teacher has already said partial throttle conditions is where we will spend a good amount of time so looking forward !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bossmang FREAKY Donating Members 12,338 Member For: 13y 1m 9d Gender: Male Location: Melbourne Posted 21/02/13 05:48 AM Share Posted 21/02/13 05:48 AM well done jet, glad your going through with it.how old are the rest of the people in the class btw? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Impellor Member 835 Member For: 12y 6m 14d Gender: Not Telling Posted 21/02/13 05:57 AM Share Posted 21/02/13 05:57 AM (edited) My brief to RDP was safety as the priority. Now, "if we put 9 degrees in at 4000rpm with your mods. We would have seen pinging. that's what many years of dyno tuning 100's of XR6 Turbo's will tell you. Now when you have done enough of these things you will learn where the thresholds are". But seeking to always hit the ping threshold, I believe your working on the edge. Which could end badly. So no Mick, I don't agree with your philosophy at all.Cheers Edited 21/02/13 10:56 AM by Dagabond Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_4.0 Member 1,096 Member For: 12y 15d Posted 21/02/13 05:57 AM Share Posted 21/02/13 05:57 AM Which TAFE is this through? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Impellor Member 835 Member For: 12y 6m 14d Gender: Not Telling Posted 21/02/13 06:13 AM Share Posted 21/02/13 06:13 AM Sct tuning course details. Not sure if available in Australia but I couldn't see why not. http://www.stangtv.com/tech-stories/electronics-efi/learn-how-to-tune-your-late-model-vehicle-sct/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=learn-how-to-tune-your-late-model-vehicle-sct Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratter Member 6,793 Member For: 16y 8m 7d Gender: Male Location: @ my laptop Posted 21/02/13 06:31 AM Share Posted 21/02/13 06:31 AM My brief to RDP was safety as the priority. Now, "if we put 9 degrees in at 4000rpm with your mods. We would have seen pinging. that's what many years of dyno tuning 100's of XR6 Turbo's will tell you. Now when you have done enough of these things you will learn where the thresholds are". But seeking to always hit the ping threshold, I believe your working on the edge. Which could end badly. So no Mick, I don't agree with your philosophy at all.Cheersmost fairytales start with "once upon a time" I think that should be included somewhere in your posthave a nice day. 11 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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