k31th less WHY; more WOT Site Developer 28,292 Member For: 16y 10d Gender: Male Location: Melbourne Posted 13/03/19 05:06 AM Share Posted 13/03/19 05:06 AM oh well, my observation was just marked as arse-holish banter then... my bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arronm Dropping a turd Gold Donating Members 9,520 Member For: 16y 5m 24d Gender: Male Location: Perth Posted 13/03/19 05:07 AM Share Posted 13/03/19 05:07 AM It's not my fault you al dum. When you get olden you will be smatner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Stripes. All stock bar the k&n panel filter Silver Donating Members 8,061 Member For: 12y 1m 6d Gender: Male Location: Perth Posted 13/03/19 05:20 AM Share Posted 13/03/19 05:20 AM 9 minutes ago, k31th said: oh well, my observation was just marked as arse-holish banter then... my bad. Not your observation, more so the WAY you presented it. For example: 18 hours ago, k31th said: guys... you're all talking as though you are IT experts... but what you've all said means you have no idea about IT haha Would have come across better worded something like: "There's actually a little more involved behind the scenes with email servers and cleints, such as..." 18 hours ago, k31th said: well, I could go into details, but it's just not worth it here just take it as banter ^See previous statement. Don't say "I could go into details" and then not elaborate - this comes across as "I'm smarter and better than the rest of you peasants". 6 hours ago, k31th said: nah, just people talking about email addresses is a funny thing to behold when there's so much more behind the scenes, but that's OK you guys had a good chat. Again, not needed and could have been avoided had you just imparted your knowledge in the first place, without being uppity about it. 2 hours ago, k31th said: lol Fluff. I could put a diatribe or some but nobody would find it valuable, so I'm not going to bother, however you might look down on what I said or my character for doing so See my previous post... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k31th less WHY; more WOT Site Developer 28,292 Member For: 16y 10d Gender: Male Location: Melbourne Posted 13/03/19 05:27 AM Share Posted 13/03/19 05:27 AM honestly, mate, I was just deflecting the aggressive responses to my original observation... it's easy to take out of context like you just did. Yes, your 2nd quote in that post, exactly says I could have worded it better, hence the post itself was a bit on the "asshole" side, which I previously admitted, based on reflection. I don't think anybody in this thread even knows how deep the knowledge level required of email is, just to reasonably accurately troubleshoot it. Ask any IT guy about his 2 biggest daily annoyances and they'll probably be "printers" and "email" for most of them, which says a lot on it's own about how simple email is on a surface level, but can have so many operational troubleshooting opportunities alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.Stripes. All stock bar the k&n panel filter Silver Donating Members 8,061 Member For: 12y 1m 6d Gender: Male Location: Perth Posted 13/03/19 05:32 AM Share Posted 13/03/19 05:32 AM So, what are some of the issues that face the average IT person with respects to email? I'm genuinely curious. Also, gmail currently has some hectic outages...this helps me not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k31th less WHY; more WOT Site Developer 28,292 Member For: 16y 10d Gender: Male Location: Melbourne Posted 13/03/19 05:42 AM Share Posted 13/03/19 05:42 AM just a couple of examples... SMTP from whoever's servers out through whoever's mass-mailer etc and trying to troubleshoot the pathway can have 1-10+ layers of SMTP/other control that cause these outages to be basically impossible to troubleshoot unless you have access to every single layer's security administration. The end user sees "my email didn't send" and the above is only a very high level view of what the troubleshooting for that specific end-user experience entails. Nobody wants to spend more than 1 hour troubleshooting "email didn't send" but it can take hours/days to troubleshoot each layer with how long it takes to get in contact with each administration team etc. This troubleshooting doesn't even take into accoutn what happens after the "send" layers are established... the 'receive' layers can be equally "controlled". end users say "my email bounced, why"... some companies allow the bounces to have the actual data trail in the email sent to the end-user then they've got hundreds of lines of gobbledegook to trawl through, even if you know what you're lookign for, to find the source of the issue. This means users can either google something and get a horrible answer as they've selected the wrong part of the gobbledegook and send you on a freakin' wild goose chase. Often the huge "bounced" email also leads to a similar "pin the tail on the donkey" style of chase-down of each layer of email security. bottom line, for such a simple service, it has a lot of requirements to meet and gets more complex as time goes on. I haven't had any "personal" gmail outages... were those gmail outages just "business" accounts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psshhhht Member 165 Member For: 7y 7m 2d Posted 13/03/19 06:28 AM Share Posted 13/03/19 06:28 AM 18 hours ago, Puffwagon said: It was definitely a few levels above "better than nothing". A before and after walk around would be a nice inclusion, and if your other camera battery didn't go flat, it would have been great. I watch a lot of car related youtube channels, and I think you would get a decent following going, with a few small additions and tweaks here and there. thanks for the feedback mate. I'd love to get the channel going in a way that it could essentially pay for my racing at least, it's the long-term goal anyway, so totally open to any suggestions on what people like to see and any constructive criticism Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilk Is on holiday from communism Member 1,282 Member For: 5y 3m 17d Gender: Female Location: Victoria Posted 13/03/19 08:17 AM Share Posted 13/03/19 08:17 AM So many autistic people getting upset about emails and how they work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k31th less WHY; more WOT Site Developer 28,292 Member For: 16y 10d Gender: Male Location: Melbourne Posted 13/03/19 08:18 AM Share Posted 13/03/19 08:18 AM it's a winner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilk Is on holiday from communism Member 1,282 Member For: 5y 3m 17d Gender: Female Location: Victoria Posted 13/03/19 08:20 AM Share Posted 13/03/19 08:20 AM So far the trigger words I know are Sluts Catholic Duffagi Gmail There's a few more, I'll remember them soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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