spinr33 Donating Members 964 Member For: 12y 8m 6d Posted 27/03/12 02:53 PM Share Posted 27/03/12 02:53 PM Hi guys,Just throwing some ideas out their I have used the search function but hasnt come up with anything really useful as far as a go or no go.My engine recently developed a knocking sound similiar to a thread that was put up recently called (engine noise) same sound etc which people seem to identify as a bent conrod mine being a BA Turbo.I was talking to my tuner as to what the best way to go about this was im not really interested in big kw's and big dollar engines etc as I have already spent alot of money on my previous cars and feel money could be better spent elsewhere.My question is can you fit an bf xt or xr6 , or fg xt or xr6 n/a block in place of the turbo block and have some form of reliability im talking about just putting a long block in bolting the turbo gear up and obviously custom tuning it to make sure it doesnt ping etc from the added compression and has enough fuel for the boost etc.I have seen a few members xr6 twin and another have converted their n/a's to turbos just by bolting everything on (xr6twin suffering compression failure due to exhaust seat burnt out)Is their much difference between the N/A and turbo long motors other then the compression and im lead to believe different exhaust valve seats in the turbo heads, also is their any point putting a N/A block, in are the using the same weaker rods as the BA's in the later BF and onwards series in the N/AAlso are the N/A pistons and Turbo pistons both castSorry for the long post but im hoping someone could shed some light as im considering this as an option for replacement but would love someone who has down it before to chime inThanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kroozin Menace Donating Members 1,990 Member For: 13y 1d Gender: Male Location: Sydney Posted 27/03/12 07:35 PM Share Posted 27/03/12 07:35 PM personally if I were you, I'd look at using an lpg motor out of a bf taxi. Might be the bf mk2 cant remember..and I think you'll have better rods than before someone else may be able to confirm.I'd also use your head that is on your existing motor, though you may have to pay for some machining to get the head and block decked I'm not sure.I dont think it would cost you alot tbh, could be worth doing some homework on it.That would be alot better than fitting an N/A motor and you may have some room to tweak aswell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pazzo Donating Members 11,132 Member For: 13y 6m 1d Gender: Male Posted 27/03/12 07:58 PM Share Posted 27/03/12 07:58 PM So you want to replace a weak motor with a weaker motor? If you cannot afford a BF MK2 short just replace with a BA again and don't mess with a N/A. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spinr33 Donating Members 964 Member For: 12y 8m 6d Posted 27/03/12 08:35 PM Author Share Posted 27/03/12 08:35 PM What parts are weaker in the N/A then the turbo motor Pazzo ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pazzo Donating Members 11,132 Member For: 13y 6m 1d Gender: Male Posted 27/03/12 08:40 PM Share Posted 27/03/12 08:40 PM Rods and pistons, also have tap a thread for your turbo oil feed line. Ford sell FG short turbo motors anywhere between $2900 $3500 depends who you ring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Never had any say Panda I <3 Floods Silver Donating Members 11,198 Member For: 12y 8m 22d Gender: Male Location: South West QLD Posted 27/03/12 09:03 PM Share Posted 27/03/12 09:03 PM NA motors are also running higher compression.. So that combined with throwing boost into it.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xr6t_ute Donating Members 2,281 Member For: 16y 9m 29d Gender: Male Location: south east suburbs Posted 27/03/12 09:09 PM Share Posted 27/03/12 09:09 PM Do an insurance job and buy a Smartcar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhino1980 09JET Member 1,510 Member For: 14y 10m 3d Gender: Male Location: E. Maitland Posted 27/03/12 09:31 PM Share Posted 27/03/12 09:31 PM Talk to Chris from Rapid about LPG bottom ends. They have a great static CR for turbo charging IF you're going to run E85 everyday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradles024 Donating Members 1,145 Member For: 14y 5m 9d Gender: Male Posted 27/03/12 09:39 PM Share Posted 27/03/12 09:39 PM ^^^ kind of ruins the cost-effectivness though. Why not just find a 2nd hand turbo motor? Lower your boost a bit and you'll be fine. You're selling it anyway yeah? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spinr33 Donating Members 964 Member For: 12y 8m 6d Posted 27/03/12 10:02 PM Author Share Posted 27/03/12 10:02 PM Nah I wasnt planning on selling it only had it around 6 months , I was just throwing some ideas out their I have some other avenues to explore asfar as replacement with another turbo motor , short block etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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