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On 17/07/2013 at 10:27 PM, arronm said:

Is that green thing the standard shift stick.

I like the strong spring and the short of the my malwood in my typhoon. Also removing the rubber bush really firms up the feel.

What I dont understand is why people fit a very short stick which reduces the leverage to smash those shifts. Plus its closer to the steering wheel.

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Malwood plus hurst.

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Where did you get that shifter boot?!
I have the shifter and everything else and cant seem to find a shifter boot anywhere that will fit easily like that!

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it doesn't fit easily... when you buy the hurst bar, you get a little bit of plastic that goes around it, which is visible in this pic. The "surround" is the stock one in an F6. :Welcome2FordXR6t:

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I have the hurst shifter and the tr6060 in a ba. the old boot is totalled and the only ones I have found have a round metal ring at the top which sits very high up the hurst shaft.
I might just make my own or something.

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you have to take the metal ring off, basically, then install the plastic bit, that comes with the hurst stick, into the standard boot.

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So who's tried more than one short shifter?

I much prefer the feel of 1-6 with the core short shifter over the mal wood ultimate street shifter. But given the ultimate street shifter goes into reverse without force I'll stick with it.
The core shifter feels like it has stiffer springs in it and gives a firmer shift. Both go through the gears real nice but I much prefer the firmer feel of the core shifter.

Hoping I'll be able to tinker with the core shifter to make it work a bit better.

So who's tried the GM Rip shifter? Thoughts?

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As far as I know, the Mal Wood shifter does not have a spring. The Magnum's have a detent spring, which is a sealed unit that screws into the R/H side on the gearbox. It is this spring that gives you resistance and gate pressure. I think that the difference in the height of the shifters that you're using, is affecting the leverage on the detent spring and using less resistance to push through it...

 

See link for a pic of a dentent spring

 

Detent spring

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I have the aeroflow short shifter and you feel and hear everything from the Gearbox now, especially with the new clutch.

With the stock cluck it didn't feel as bad, but still with the stock gear stick you had that solid feel and no noise, due to the black rubber separating the gear lever from the block that bolts to the shifter.

That block of rubber is solid and it is the reason why you don't hear or feel anything from the gearbox.

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You can actually see the rubber in this picture, even though it is painted. It is where the lever meets the solid block on the left side of the picture.

The fact that it is painted is what makes that block look like it is one solid piece.

I have been trying to replicate that feel for a few years now with different stuff, with no success.

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As far as I know, the Mal Wood shifter does not have a spring. The Magnum's have a detent spring, which is a sealed unit that screws into the R/H side on the gearbox. It is this spring that gives you resistance and gate pressure. I think that the difference in the height of the shifters that you're using, is affecting the leverage on the detent spring and using less resistance to push through it...
 
See link for a pic of a dentent spring
 
Detent spring
It definately does, to center the shifter when in neutral and help pull it across when going 2-3 etc.

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The stronger spring brings the stick back to centre so 3rd is straight up. The most important shift 2nd to 3rd   

 

Short throw is achieved by changing the pivot point  

 

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Edited by arronm

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That's the difference.

Too bad mals shifter is folded together. Not just a simple spring swap.
The core shifter is bolted together so it should be easy to change around internally.

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