Headsex Donating Members 2,528 Member For: 19y 11m 8d Gender: Male Location: Melb Posted 12/03/09 01:45 AM Author Share Posted 12/03/09 01:45 AM Here's the 80lb Siemens spec sheet from Ford Racing USAScalars, breakpoint, and Min PulsewidthBattery offset table Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/55557-new-injectors/page/4/#findComment-840157 Share on other sites More sharing options...
iTec TEAM BA Donating Members 1,755 Member For: 20y 7m 12d Gender: Male Location: North of The Bridge Posted 12/03/09 02:38 AM Share Posted 12/03/09 02:38 AM GT42R on the standard bottom end for now.. and push the power up more.. your nuts!I hope you have a dust pan and broom in the boot so you dont leave your bottom end on the road Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/55557-new-injectors/page/4/#findComment-840193 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Guests Posted 12/03/09 02:54 AM Share Posted 12/03/09 02:54 AM Just build it Danny & stop playing games Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/55557-new-injectors/page/4/#findComment-840199 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Headsex Donating Members 2,528 Member For: 19y 11m 8d Gender: Male Location: Melb Posted 13/03/09 05:46 PM Author Share Posted 13/03/09 05:46 PM Ok. a update on these 80lb injectors..I do NOT recommend these injectors unless you NEED to make big power. The minimum pulse width of this injector is 1.58 milliseconds. Far too great for idle, unless you set your idle to 1100rpm.. In gear when the engines loaded up a bit, its happy at 800rpm at lambda 1. But when its in neutral/park, forget it, Rich idle. Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/55557-new-injectors/page/4/#findComment-841603 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cole trickle Donating Members 237 Member For: 19y 6m 12d Gender: Male Location: Melbourne, Vic Posted 13/03/09 11:42 PM Share Posted 13/03/09 11:42 PM Also when installing these injectors it pays to have a good "light boy" heheDalesy Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/55557-new-injectors/page/4/#findComment-841700 Share on other sites More sharing options...
JVK Silver Donating Members 751 Member For: 19y 7m 1d Gender: Male Location: North West Hot Hell,VIC Posted 13/03/09 11:54 PM Share Posted 13/03/09 11:54 PM Thanks for the quik feedback on these injectors, as usuall your a wealth of information.Slightly off topic,did you get that dyno sorted and up and running? Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/55557-new-injectors/page/4/#findComment-841711 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratter Member 6,793 Member For: 19y 1m 22d Gender: Male Location: @ my laptop Posted 22/03/09 01:34 AM Share Posted 22/03/09 01:34 AM DannyThe 80 lb figures have been rereleased and are different to your original figures, may be give them a try after modifiyng them for our fuel pressure Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/55557-new-injectors/page/4/#findComment-846477 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Headsex Donating Members 2,528 Member For: 19y 11m 8d Gender: Male Location: Melb Posted 26/03/09 10:40 AM Author Share Posted 26/03/09 10:40 AM (edited) I do NOT recommend these injectors unless you NEED to make big power. The minimum pulse width of this injector is 1.58 milliseconds. Far too great for idle, unless you set your idle to 1100rpm.. In gear when the engines loaded up a bit, its happy at 800rpm at lambda 1. But when its in neutral/park, forget it, Rich idle.These injectors are now Happily running in my car at lambda 1 at FACTORY IDLE rpm.. that's right, approx 600rpm in gear. or 750rpm in netural. See below for more details.DannyThe 80 lb figures have been rereleased and are different to your original figures, may be give them a try after modifiyng them for our fuel pressureAs Mick has pointed out, Ford Racing have Re-released the injector values. I Emailed them regarding the problem I had, where the pcm was idling on the Minimum pulsewidth causing a excessively rich problem as the minimum pulsewidth was too much fuel. I told them I experimented with Lowering the Minimum pulse width, but cranking up the Battery offset table because the PCM shuts down the injectors if the calculated fuel pulsewidth is LESS THAN the "minimum pulsewidth" remembering that if the injector doesnt have enough pre-open time, It may fail to open anyways, So the injector needs at least 2ms opening time I've been told. But the problem is, the PCM's equation does not include the Battery Offset ms opening time in the calculation for minimum pulse width.They told me they were already well aware of the problem and were in the process of re-releasing the spec sheet with the new finalized results. Obviously Mick saw them before I did.So if you compare the original and revised specs, you will see that, the min pulse width was set to 1.57ms, and now a revised 0.599ms. BUT in the Battery offset table, the pre-open time at 12volts was originally 0.595ms, and now a revised 1.25ms. So, If you look at this following v2 Specs from ford RacingHere is the calculated details @ 4bar base (58psi)All important Advantage 3 Screen shots Edited 26/03/09 10:42 AM by Headsex Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/55557-new-injectors/page/4/#findComment-849604 Share on other sites More sharing options...
spine Donating Members 642 Member For: 19y 3m 1d Gender: Male Location: Footscrayastan Posted 26/03/09 10:46 AM Share Posted 26/03/09 10:46 AM great success Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/55557-new-injectors/page/4/#findComment-849608 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Headsex Donating Members 2,528 Member For: 19y 11m 8d Gender: Male Location: Melb Posted 26/03/09 10:57 AM Author Share Posted 26/03/09 10:57 AM that's right!! So next time your around here, we need to alter your injector values to suit :D Link to comment https://www.fordxr6turbo.com/forum/topic/55557-new-injectors/page/4/#findComment-849615 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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