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Well, the big day arrived and the wait since November 2007, when ZAPF6 alerted me to the fact that Nissan Aus were accepting deposits, is over! My new car arrived in Melbourne on the 14th April. I flew up on the 17th, 'borrowed' it for the day and had it detailed and a clear bra installed (Damian @ Final Inspection did the detail - absolutely fantastic person and a great job too - very pleased). I flew back home while the car then taken back to the port on a truck, waited in Melbourne over the weekend, and shipped to Tassie on Monday night. Arrived here on Tuesday. Here's a few pics. Unfotunately, I leave for Norway on business for two weeks on Saturday and won't be picking her up till I get back - bugger!! Talk to you all soon..........

G'day Lj, ...does it idle smoothly if you don't drive it straight away after starting? My F6 suffered from a rough idle problem that caused the engine revs to be erratic for about 30-40 seconds after initial start-up when the engine was cold. Turned out to be the O2 sensor which had failed (wouldn't work properly until warm or something like that)

Bought my BA F6 from Tilfords in Hobart and as part of the original purchase visited their service centre next door to check out their equipment, meet the manager and meet their FPV service technician. Wayne is the service technicians name. If you can get this guy as the one who works on your car then go for it - he has been fantastic with mine. Meet with Gareth Dean, their service manager who has also been excellent to deal with. Been serviced there every 7,500km's (oil changes at 7,500 intervals, with regulaer services at 15,000) and have to say very pleased with the service levels.

Mine used to do this as well - stock BA F6, no injectors or tune. Idles OK after starting up for about 20-30 seconds, then turns into a thing that sounds like a V8 with a huge cam. Sometime sorts itself out after about 10-15 seconds, a bit of a rev up without me touching throttle (to about 2000 rpm) then good again - smooth idle. Mine started doing it only in the winter last year, it then went away in the summer. Came back this year when the weather got cold again. This year the car started to occaisionally stall, and the 'check engine' light would come on. Turn off igintion and restart = all good. NOW FIXED! - change your O2 sensor! I think the reason it happens is that the O2 sensor takes a while to warm up (or something). That's why it's worse in the cold weather. My service guru (yes Ford do have some!) told me the reason it didn't happen straight away after starting is that the cars ECU doesn't go into closed loop fuel control until the engine has run for a few seconds (like about the same time it took the problem to start!). When the ECU switches to closed loop, if the O2 sensor isn't warm (ready? - or whatever the issue is?) then it plays havoc with the mixture (A/F ratio). This made complete sense to me because it happened every time at the same time after starting (switching to closed loop). I think the car runs lean, and that causes it to run 'lumpy'. If I tried to drive through the problem, even at light throttle openings, the car would really struggle to generate any power, until it cleared itself (all of a sudde with a real spurt!) ...anyway - mines been good for two weeks now - no issue at all! - smoother idle than new! Check your O2 sensors - that's my only tip. (By the way - The service guys had already tried changing my TPS and this didn't fix it at all) Hope this helps somebody???!!!

Mine did it too - stock BA F6, no injectors or tune. Idles OK for about 20-30 seconds, then turns into a thing that sounds like a V8 with a huge cam. Sometime sorts itself out after about 10-15 seconds, a bit of a rev up without me touching throttle (to about 2000 rpm) then good again - smooth idle. Mine started doing it only in the winter last year, it then went away in the summer. Came back this year when the weather got cold again. This year the car started to occaisionally stall, and the 'check engine' light would come on. Turn off igintion and restart = all good. NOW FIXED! - change your O2 sensors! I think the reason it happens is that the O2 sensor takes a while to warm up (or something). That's why it's worse in the cold weather. My service guru (yes Ford do have some!) told me the reason it didn't happen straight away after starting is that the cars ECU doesn't go into closed loop fuel control until the engine has run for a few seconds (like about the same time it took the prblem to start!). When the ECU switches to closed loop, if the O2 sensor isn't warm (ready? - or whatever the issue is?) then it plays havoc with the mixture (A/F ratio). This made complete sense to me because it happened every time at the same time after starting (switching to closed loop). I think the car runs lean, and that causes it to run 'lumpy'. If I tried to drive through the problem, even at light throttle openings, the car would really struggle to generate any power, until it cleared itself (all of a sudde with a real spurt!) ...anyway - mines been good for two weeks now - no issue at all! - smoother idle than new! Check your O2 sensors - that's my only tip. (By the way - The service guys had already tried changing my TPS and this didn't fix it at all) Hope this helps somebody???!!!

........YES!! - and my deposit is still looking worthwhile!!

...could it be its the starter ring gear has come loose off the flywheel? Are you sure the whole flywheel turns by hand - or are you talking about the ring gear on the outside edge? That would make sense why the starter motor runs - but doesn't turn the crankshaft, etc.???? ....just an idea

...same one I think! Definetley quicker above 5000rpm than mine - hit the limiter much harder

Met Rod Barrett last night in Hobart at the FG FPV Launch down here. Drove a green (hated the colour!) F6. I didn't hear the flutter either, until I backed off quickly before the revs got to around 4500 - then I heard it. If I backed off after 4,500 = nothing!? Didn't seem to do it as much as my BA F6 does - maybe something to do with the bigger intercooler and better piping?? I was also surprised that it felt to have just as much lag as my current car - I had heard they would be less witht eh different compressor wheel. Impressed by mid and top end power though - bottem end felt similar to mine, but above 3500-4000 rpm definitely felt stronger! Manual gearbox was also better than my current T56 too - although if I buy one it will probably be the ZF. Traction control definitely better than the BA - less intrusive, but I think that's also been the same since the BF. GT-E they had in the showroom looked absolutely fantastic in Lightening Strike. The bobtail on the rear with the painted lower sectio n on the bumper looked absolutely brilliant. If I buy another F6 it will get the mascara removed (racoon eyes) and a bobtail fitted instead of the poxy new F6 wing. Stupid me didn't remember to try launch control either!!

I must say I am really tempted to buy one of these when the current lease runs out on my F6 in December. One issue I have is that I would love to be able to upgrade the brake package to the Brembo's!! Does anyone know if that would be possible without upsetting the DSC and ABS etc etc???? As I see it these are a much better looking car, with performance that would at least match my current BA F6 (especially with the ZF option) - just wish it had decent brakes. Anyone??