If only I could only share its sweet note with all my Team N/A brothers. Flicky, I did a bit of hunting and sniffing around myself when it was time for new pipes, wanting the best on a beer budget I found the maker of the Herrod Stainless system, at that time it was a guy in Sydney at Hi-tec mufflers, he'll sell the Herrod system at about 2/3s the price Ford will, if your after steal pips the guy who makes them for Herrod is in Vic some where. The Herrod systems won't in any way produce the big power gains others may but they won't make your wife slap you around the ears when she can't hear herself think on the freeway after a 3 hour drive of drone. Don't forget to do a Dyno power run at some time before you begin your mods. Yes a good exhaust setup is a butifull thing and you do leave people at the lights wondering if you got badged is there realy a turbo in that thing or not, but if I was starting out on the mod road now I'd go towards a edit. The new edits are by far the best bang for your buck with the N/A, and if you do get an edit you'll have me green. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Thanks for the info so far guys, I checked out the website listed above which looks awesome but I'd have to get it shipped here and trying to trust any of the fitters here I'm starting to think twice about, but still an option nonetheless. I might get in contact with Hi-Tec mufflers in Sydney as I'm up there all the time visiting mates so it'd be easy to leave my car there for a day or two. and knowing they've done someone elses with good results that's a plus. Good point about the pre-mod dyno, I hadn't really thought of that but will do it before I start on anything now. Thanks