Puffwagon Puff Gold Donating Members 15,116 Member For: 9y 2m 20d Gender: Male Location: South Australia Posted 21/04/18 03:07 PM Share Posted 21/04/18 03:07 PM (edited) It'd be pretty close, depending on the rest of the setup. Edited 21/04/18 03:08 PM by Puffwagon Removed some empty space. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Member 564 Member For: 19y 6m 26d Gender: Male Posted 22/04/18 12:00 PM Share Posted 22/04/18 12:00 PM On 4/21/2018 at 5:36 PM, Puffwagon said: Apparently they fit with modification to the turbine housing. Still, Garrett is saying that the turbine wheel is different...Maybe they don't know what they made?! I reckon I know where the confusion is maybe. Gcg do a gtw turbo for the falcon which is a 3584. It is not the 3584rs though. Edit: The turbine wheel is different on the gtw as well though. Puff GCG do sell the GTX3584RS on a T3 rear. https://gcg.com.au/petrol-performance/performance-3/turbochargers-bolt-on-upgrade/ford-falcon-ba-bf-gtx3584rs-gen-ii-turbocharger-upgrade-detail I agree the new G2 turbine wheel is upgraded from G1 but if you look at the turbine wheel specs as listed on Garrets website you will find the Inducer, Exducer and trim values are identical to the GTX3582r. On paper a GTX3584RS with a 1.06 T3 rear would only be slightly more efficient then the 3582, and this is only on the compressor side thanks to the 0.72A/R. In fact technically when you do the numbers the trim is slightly smaller on the 3584RS at 63.61 vs 64.74 for the 3582r, again on the compressor side, any real HP gains you would see on the 3584 would be from the much bigger rear housing (vband) rather then the front cover when compering it to a T3 bolt up running 1.06. Fark all in it, and both turbos are outside of there efficient map range. At least that's how I see it mate, have I missed something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sixman Donating Members 593 Member For: 19y 8m 28d Gender: Male Location: Hills District, NSW Posted 23/04/18 02:07 AM Share Posted 23/04/18 02:07 AM I use a 0.83 T3 IWG with v- band outlet housing with my BW turbo. Spools as quick as the 3576, but still goes 450rwkw with P98. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puffwagon Puff Gold Donating Members 15,116 Member For: 9y 2m 20d Gender: Male Location: South Australia Posted 23/04/18 02:18 AM Share Posted 23/04/18 02:18 AM 14 hours ago, Typhoon said: At least that's how I see it mate, have I missed something? That's the way I see it too, more or less. I bought my gen2 gtx3582r when they were released and all info from shops etc said the rs wouldn't fit a iwg housing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Member 564 Member For: 19y 6m 26d Gender: Male Posted 23/04/18 03:04 AM Share Posted 23/04/18 03:04 AM The 1.15 is a bigger housing so might be why it works. Im about to see if a 3584RS will fit my 1.06 that is set up with external gate. If it works, I wouldn’t expect to see much more power then my 3582r, just might do it a little easier. Im hopping we go 560rwkw on it, will see. Should be about right for the 3584RS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zlat347 Member 56 Member For: 5y 11m 29d Posted 23/04/18 08:33 AM Author Share Posted 23/04/18 08:33 AM 6 hours ago, Puffwagon said: That's the way I see it too, more or less. I bought my gen2 gtx3582r when they were released and all info from shops etc said the rs wouldn't fit a iwg housing. What power you making with the gen2 3582? What mods? Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puffwagon Puff Gold Donating Members 15,116 Member For: 9y 2m 20d Gender: Male Location: South Australia Posted 23/04/18 08:37 AM Share Posted 23/04/18 08:37 AM I never dyno'd it but I turned it up to 21.5psi on e85 so it would have been high 400's or maybe 500. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zlat347 Member 56 Member For: 5y 11m 29d Posted 23/04/18 08:52 AM Author Share Posted 23/04/18 08:52 AM 1.06 rear with external gate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Puffwagon Puff Gold Donating Members 15,116 Member For: 9y 2m 20d Gender: Male Location: South Australia Posted 23/04/18 08:55 AM Share Posted 23/04/18 08:55 AM Mods are bosch "1000cc" injectors, walbro 460 in modded stock pot with relay and battery feed, venom twin 2.5 turbo back exhaust with 4 inch dump etc, 300x600x100 intercooler and 3 inch cold side piping, plaz 4 inch cai. Oh yeah and the turbo. It is in the stock falcon housing with a 12 psi actuator and a ported wg. Some mild brake stuff as well. Haha polylast diff bushes Earls oil feed and filter. I think that's about it but there is probably a couple of little things I'm forgetting. It's off the road for now but I'll pull my finger out this week or next and fix it up. It had enough to fry the tyres at over 100kph when it came on boost in 3rd. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k31th less WHY; more WOT Site Developer 28,291 Member For: 16y 9d Gender: Male Location: Melbourne Posted 23/04/18 09:09 AM Share Posted 23/04/18 09:09 AM mmmmm #barratheworld. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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