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DBA T3 and PMU 400 pads are currently on my car. I rate them highly because of the low amount of brake dust.

They don't bite as much at the Bendix ultimates do, but hell the amount of brake dust from the ultimates were rediculous.

I have the 19" Lux rims and by the time 2 weeks had gone by after a car wash, the rims looked like the 50th anniversary rims. Yeah the dark grey ones.

 

Never again will I go with the ultimates. I rather stick with the PMU 400.

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1 hour ago, masda74 said:

They don't bite as much at the Bendix ultimates do, but hell the amount of brake dust from the ultimates were rediculous.

 

It's the bite I missed and returned to the Ultimates for.

 

One set had a squeal occasionaly at slow breaking speeds.

 

Went PMU's, the initial bite wasn't there.

 

Brake dust doesn't worry me - means the pads are doing their job lol.

 

Have had the PMU's smoking like fark after hard hill runs - was looking for flames, ultimates not so much.

 

Can't speak on rotor wear, not sure which eats them harder.

 

Think I've used both at the track - neither left me wanting, but was definitely there for fun, not on any race car driver honest limits

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I feel like with the amount of dust the bendix ultimates make, you'd want them to hold up on the track as well. IMO they don't at all for any more than a lap or two.

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I here alot of talk about ultimates and PMU 400 -800's but nothing about Bendix SRT's. I ran a set on my BF typhoon and found them a little bit dusty but a pretty good street pad when they were warmed up. Never did track the car, but definitely push it hard enough on the street to get a good feel from them. They did chew up the 355 rotors but that's what ya get from above standard pads. My2c's

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2 minutes ago, Box stock T. said:

when they were warmed up

 

That's my issue - 99.9% of my driving is in suburbia, stop signs, traffic and roundabouts - <60km/h stop/start

 

Day to day I miss the cold, "slow speed" bite

 

It's what made me move on from the stock setup before the 1st service - felt like I had to brake, then brake again or overshoot the intersection.

 

I was coming from a Pajero :S

 

Ultimates gave me what I was after (expecting/should have been stock)

 

Pmu's may be a better pad, but they lost the stop sign, 40km/h feel - went back to the having to the "have to push again/further/quicker feel"

 

Not sure if the above ^^ will make sense to anyone, but it's my thoughts from when I was chasing what I was after.

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Yep I hear what ya saying mate.

It's hard to find and brake pad for daily driving and expect it to respond like a set of supercar pads.

Mine phoon was a my second car so it was easy to live with the traits of a semi race style pad. There definitely another option to include along with ultimates and 400's and the ferrodo pads mentioned earlier.

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2 minutes ago, Box stock T. said:

It's hard to find and brake pad for daily driving and expect it to respond like a set of supercar pads.

It's hard being a daily driver and to pretend to be a supercar driver :P

 

I think I've done a cruise or two with the (gran)baby seat still in the car lol - they make me take it out at scruitineering on track days

 

Not 18 anymore - if the rims get dusty then the folks at the bowls club know I've been having fun

 

Haven't found a time where the brakes grip less than the tyres do yet - til then, it's all just feel

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I have to agree with what you  are saying about the initial bite but when my missus jumps in the car from her barina my head almost always goes thru the front window for the first couple of stops haha. I dont think I could handle more bite

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Lol.

 

I'm the other way.

 

Would jump in mums Golf and headbutt the steering wheel.

 

From the Pajero I'd been driving I wasn't expecting a "worse" street braking feel - stock FG was far worse

 

T2's and the Bendix's fixed that (probably just the pads) - made the car feel how it should have.

 

Have chased improvements since

 

Different pads, rotors etc.

 

Happy again with ultimates (on 380?? rotors, but it's the pads that make the difference on stopping)

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Yeah first mod I did was get rid of the crap stock brakes on the fg. How can a car that is both fast and heavy be so under braked.

Have you looked into braided lines? I feel as if they get overlooked despite the benefits they give

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Brakes and suspension would be the 1st things I'd do if I had my time again.

 

Power's for occasional, stopping is for comfort, handling is for fun - everyday.

 

Get them all balanced and everything works :) Stock is so out of balance :( 

 

Have had braided lines since my 2nd bike in the early 90's - it's subtle, but it's there.

 

Still can't brake harder, take off quicker or comer faster than the rubber you're running allows you to - decent tyres are still the limiting factor

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Before they glaze or run out?
They would just lose their ability to pull the car up. Pedal went to mush. Mechanic had just serviced it and put in fresh penrite racing brake fluid for me.

Each time I came off the 3 fast laps 1 cool down lap smoke was wafting out of them. This was a pretty short tight track (collie), little time to cool down the brakes before you were slamming them on again.
Wouldn't buy again.

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That'll be brake fade - nothing to do with the pads.

 

Brake fluid got too hot.

 

If you find any pads that don't do the same on the same track then it's because they grip less and slow you down less.

 

You're blaming the wrong part of the mix for why your brakes stopped working.

 

The pads were probably the only thing left at the time that was doing it's job correctly

 

Regardless of brand.

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mums camry foot almost to the floor before it grips, its just a soft pedal feel same with my corolla.

 

jump in my ute with factory setup still, I almost smack my head when I brake.

 

so I def like the initial bite gives reassurance ey haha

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I agree with @Rab in regards to the brake fluid @Lennox. did you get dot 4 brake fluid? you most probably did as I went through the same thing at the RAC tuning session.

Need to get dot 5 brake fluid if you plan to take it to the track.

I got my brake fluid replaced a month later and all was fine with the car.

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Fmd...

Penrite racing brake fluid as mentioned above, freshly changed the day before by the mechanic. 

 

This was months ago, I can't remember a play by play of what happened to the car, I just remember brakes not working well and lots of smoke, the pedal still worked just required more pressure.

All I know is that I won't be buying them again, I wouldn't recommend them to anyone else to use on the track, if you guys want to use them on the track go for it. I won't.

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