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#1 OFFLINE   chrissara

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Posted 30 August 2010 - 07:46 PM

Hello all.

Been a long time member but rare poster (and lurker).

Sadly made a mistake about 4 years ago when I sold my XR6T (a BA 2003 model with the Brembo brakes). Reason I sold it was due to fuel consumption and lack of travel.

Kids have grown up a bit, need a tad more leg room in the back (they are 10 and 7 years old), and we are now doing a far bit more travelling on the good ol' A1 (the Bruce Highway) in regional Qld.

So....... I wish to get rid of the 2006 Holden Astra CDTi (actually not a bad car, but really sh*t when overtaking on the highway - I recall putting the foot to the floor in the XR6T when overtaking and literally going from 90 kph to 140 kph in under 4 secs - hell of a rush and a bit frightening too!).

I am looking at a BF MkII versus the FG models in an auto configuration (dealer second hand or demo). Is one model better than the other in the auto gearbox department at all? FG I see is slightly quicker 0-100 (5.2s vs 5.8-6 for the BF).

Anyone owned or own both that could comment? Also is boot space the same in both models?

Appreciate your comments.

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Posted 30 August 2010 - 07:57 PM

Fg is going to bequicker at all speeds with its smaller turbo, but bf2s look better IMO :buttrock:

But really if you can afford it go the FG, obviously going tobe the better car.

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Posted 30 August 2010 - 08:28 PM

I know it's a bit cliche and somewhat a through-away line, but the FG is a totally different car. Worlds apart.

If the budget will stretch then most definitely get an FG, if not then don't even test drive one otherwise that'll be the end of it :buttrock:

To answer your question specifically the gearbox is pretty much the same, but a little bit smarter in the FG.

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Posted 30 August 2010 - 08:31 PM

For less money I would buy a second hand BF Typhoon instead of a FG XR6 turbo demo.
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Posted 30 August 2010 - 09:42 PM

well have another fg v bf war here but anyway, fg is an absolute gem. test drove bf typhoons, gts and fg xr6t and there was no comparison. fg all the way, wish I could have afforded the f6 but the t is awesome anyway.
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Posted 30 August 2010 - 10:18 PM

as stated above. They are a completely different car. The Fg (for me) took me some time to get used to but i cant fault the thing.
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Posted 31 August 2010 - 10:58 AM

I own a FG xr6t and my mate just bought a BA xr6t (practically the same as what you're looking at). The interior of the FG is miles better than the BA, more functionality, ergonomic and easier to use and nicer, it should be on a newer car. Also the power delivery in the FG is astonishing, boost comes on early and hard, but you can drive it normally with ease, mainly because of the great ZF. If your not modding it (I'm assuming you won't because it's a family car) then it's a lot better to begin with, and if you do decide to mod it more power is very easy to come by. But mods wise the BF 2 will be better for big power, of that was what you are after. If funds permit I'd get the FG, plus you've already had a b-series why not try something new :P
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Posted 31 August 2010 - 02:20 PM

This topic has been playing on my mind for a while. Ive had my 03 BA XT for quite some time now and done a few mods to it, exhaust, suspension, cai etc, but ive come to the point where I can sell up (to a family member) and go looking for another car and definitely going a T this time.

The main differences between BF MKII and FG are almost $10k apart. A second hand fully optioned 2007 BFMKII can be had for as low as 20k whereas a 2008 FG, with bare minumum options (if your lucky) can be found for as low as 30k. The other problem I have found is either going an auto or manual. The XT being a 4spd has left me dying for a manual. Unfortunately there are hardly any manual cars around in either FG or BFMKII. I might end up having to buy interstate to find a low km manual.

I dont know whether I can justify an extra 10k for a car that's only a year younger. It is the FG, and a lot better/quicker turbo. But for 10k more and without BFMKII options like colour screen, premo sound, leather.. is the FG really worth it?

I wont be buying till another two months so maybe prices will change a bit and more cars will enter the market. I might end up getting a ZF box as a last resort and I will definitely be looking at getting the car to around 300rwkw in its future. decisions decisions.

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Posted 31 August 2010 - 03:05 PM

Bf mk2s fully optioned for 20k hey :dontknow:

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Posted 31 August 2010 - 03:19 PM

Fark I'd like to see that, might swing me back to B series Posted Image

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Posted 31 August 2010 - 05:39 PM

hang on, might swing me back to b series. are you getting an fg dillz? if so, you are making a very good decision brother.
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Posted 31 August 2010 - 05:42 PM

Have a look on carsales, there are quite a few going for low 20's.

If you had a choice and money didn't matter then I'd be going the FG. Better car day to day, but I'm thinking of going for a BFMK2 purely cos they have the strong engine and easier to mod to make quicker.
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Posted 31 August 2010 - 06:03 PM

hang on, might swing me back to b series. are you getting an fg dillz? if so, you are making a very good decision brother.



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Posted 31 August 2010 - 06:42 PM

Bf mk2s fully optioned for 20k hey :thumbsup:


Have a look on carsales, there are quite a few going for low 20's.

If you had a choice and money didn't matter then I'd be going the FG. Better car day to day, but I'm thinking of going for a BFMK2 purely cos they have the strong engine and easier to mod to make quicker.


One guy was selling premo sound, leather, 2006 mkII BF for low 20s, he told me his trade in price would of been around 18k hence he only wants to sell it privately.. im not joking, the difference between 06/07 BFMKII and 08 FG is 10k or so in price. Hence the dilemma of whether to spend more or not. Im seriously considering a 07 bfmkii .. anywhere between $20 to $25k tops (25 if it was under 30,000kms on the clock)

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Posted 31 August 2010 - 07:15 PM

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na, not at all mate. stoked that you are. :beerchug:
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Posted 31 August 2010 - 08:04 PM

lol...he might be slightly retarded and extremely stubborn, but even he has folded. Next it'll be a G6ET he's lining up :beerchug:

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Posted 31 August 2010 - 08:29 PM

Like F*CK it will.

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Posted 31 August 2010 - 09:31 PM

when buying my missus her car I gave her the option of a new fg xr6t but she chose the white bf phoon. Cost 34k with only 26000kms on clock from dealer nearly 2 tears ago. In my opinion we saved money and the phoon wont depreciate as bad as buying new fg, phoon has big brembos, good motor, bigger turbo and looks better.
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Posted 03 September 2010 - 06:08 PM

Mate, your missus made the right choice. Everything you said is 100% correct. How could one go past a BF Typhoon?

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Posted 21 November 2010 - 04:57 PM

this is the same thing iam doing at the moment FG xr6t or a BF F6 mk2 one min iam all for the FG then the next day I see a F6 and I change my mind....

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Posted 21 November 2010 - 05:04 PM

Yeah alot of people are going through this mate (myself included) rather then try and compare them I'm just gonna wait for the right car. When It pops up I'll know.

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Posted 17 March 2011 - 06:35 PM

Go the FG as the technology benefits make it a far better car than the BF

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Posted 17 March 2011 - 07:19 PM

Well this is an interesting debate. I have ponder this very question for a long time. But in the end I choose the BF II. The reasons came down to a superior engine for power and durability. The BF II has a bigger turbo and stronger pistons. I am aware that in stock form the FG is quicker down low howewer it is also pushing approximately 40% more boost. I also brought a manual as they are quite rare and I found it difficult to find a stock low K example. If you check carsales there is a ratio 0f 4 to 1. BF II's to FG's. Cheers e
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Posted 17 March 2011 - 07:51 PM

4 to 1...wonder why there's so many for sale? :blink:

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Posted 17 March 2011 - 08:28 PM

Superior engine for power and durability. Hmmm, FG entry level 270kw stock vs BF in FPV 270kw. Puss intercooler plumbing, crap plenum - yep go the BF and yes, in manual :stirthepot:

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Posted 18 March 2011 - 06:11 AM

I take your point, but when chasing reasonable power a plenum and cooler upgrade are on my list. New FG F6 now pushing 30% more boost than BF F6. But I do agree the the new plastic intake is more efficent. But I am not sure how long the plastic end tanks on cooler will last.
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Posted 18 March 2011 - 06:18 AM

4 to 1...wonder why there's so many for sale? :blink:

Made a balls up with that, what I was trying to say is that there are 4 times as many FG manuals to BFII's.
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Posted 18 March 2011 - 06:45 AM

Hope you find a good one mate - they're getting old. If ya can, go the F6.

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Posted 18 March 2011 - 06:57 AM

Thanks Bomber, I think I have an excellent example Toxic manual with 50491k's with books and good history. Didnt go down the F6 route. I can't deal with that rear spoiler and 10k dearer. Insurance was $1200 compared to $663, and really the only thing on the F6 that I wanted was the Brembos, oh and the front bar. This was another reason I liked the BF as all is interchangable. No sure if the F6 bar in interchangable on FG. Cheers
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Posted 18 March 2011 - 05:44 PM

No, 'cause headlights are different. Only XR's get the tear drops. Sorta funny really. The entry level lights as seen on ya average 'taxi' get fitted to the FPV's. I guess they thought the body kit would be too busy with the others - don't know.

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Posted 19 March 2011 - 06:48 AM

Bomber I think maybe that FPV was trying to create a point of difference with the head lights, much harder now to make an XR6T look like a FPV (brand protection Im guessing) a bit like, or probably a lot like HSV has done with their rear tail lights. Cheers
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Posted 19 March 2011 - 11:05 PM

I upgraded from a tuned BA2 T and FG is a much better car. I test drove a BF T and a BF phoon before I test drove a FG and I was sold straight away.
I got mine for 30k and it has lux pack, 19s, manual etc so there are bargains to be had with FGs. You get warranty too with an FG. If you can afford it, get one, you won't regret it.
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Posted 19 March 2011 - 11:08 PM

No, 'cause headlights are different. Only XR's get the tear drops.

Aftermarket front bar on ebay has the tear drops cut out for the FPV look-alike. SSV.com.au can do it too, if you simply state it's for an XR series car. *shrugs*




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