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thought you meant loading a tune

flash it back to stock and then tune it

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Can I flash it back to stock with the xcal 3 or do I need the xcal 1?

If you have yours tuned with the xcal1 then flash it back to stock with the 1 and then get it tuned with the 3. The xcal1 can still be used if you have tunes your tune on it already, just can't use it for tuning

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Hope someone can help me here understand this POS concept of having "lives" in an $800 investment(most rediculous idea re programmable ecu's piggybacks etc iv ever heard of)..

SO ? If I buy a new Xcal 3 and have a custom tune installed (actually 3 individual tunes) can I return to stock then retune(overwrite) that "life" and still be on 1 life ?? so contunually modifying that same life ? Or if I have another tune done down the track do I have to use up another "life" again making that 2 strikes ??

Also can I reset/revive the lives by sending it anywhere and paying a fee ??

sorry iv tried to read up but just cant get my head around this rediculous concept.. :/

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Ahh ok thanx a lot Dragons..

that's a little BIT easier to swallow :/

I still dont understand it as the "tuner" needs a dongle to install tunes so really they are just selling units :/

I cant believe they still hold it over our head and essentially "own" the right to say what u do or dont do with your own box..

As the tuners are the only real access owners and they sell units for them I dont see the issue as long as the tuners dont go using 1 box and loading it on heaps of cars, which they would be silly to do anyways as they dont get a sell outta the customer..
MY apologies for my mini rant as iv never come across something like this..

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Without the lock any tuner could use a single xcal unit to flash all his customers cars.(you'd be naive to think it wouldn't happen - $800 odd difference in price between a first tune with a legit xcal and a shared one - would be tempting to both owner and tuner)

Would also be a fair bit of "passing around" of tunes between friends too. Followed pretty quick by the backlash when the xcal is blamed for dead engines.

I too was a bit iffy on the lockout, but, thinking about it - the only times I can see where (when being used legitimately) there could be an issue is if for some reason it lost the match to a car it was matched to.

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