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Fg Ute Axle Tramp

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So...

Have the factory springs reset, but up side down.

Fit poly bushes

Fit good dampers

Ill get onto to a suspention shop and see what happens.

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I have an 09 manual, it's lowered an inch and has 20's, only seems to tramp if you are giving it the berries and you grab second and hit some bumps when breaking traction... only had it do it once with the DSC on, only once with it off too come to think of it.

I've only ever had it do it on bumps, that's what seems to upset it?

I also expected it to be more taily than it is, in the wet it's border line scary but in the dry it doesn't seem to spit sideways as easy as I was expecting!

Regardless of the quirks I love my ute :beerchug:

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I got a BA pursuit and it did tramp as its lowered but I have solved teh problem by making up 2 straps to hold the front of the leaf springs togeaher cost of about $5 and about 30min to do and works a treat... I'll post some pics up later

Mick

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There seems to be alot of utes with this in the FG models bar the fortunate few of us.

I now have 33,000 on the clock and havent experienced once. Rears sit up in the guard

on 20's and still everything is sweet. Its been way overloaded a few times, 950 kg 6 times

or the usuall week day drive load of 3-400. It gets a hard time a fair bit and since 10,000

runs 340rwkw. I get it back on wednesday hopefully round the 400 mark but seem to mainly

be the manuals with this problem.

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Im finding it wont tramp now that I have worn alot of the tread down. 3rd still tramps and 2nd tramps in a straight line but slides plenty well... I would like to get some decent tyres once these are worn, I assume my tramps issues will only get worse with better quailty tyres.

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I have a fg xr6t lowerd on 20s and I dont get any axle tramp with mine I have king springs when they fitted the springs they have cut the bump stops a bit so under hard throtle the back end had room to move not bounce on the diff mayb that helps .

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Na man, I havent had my ute for alot of the time. Has spent a fair bit at fords for lots of driveline issues. Im not changing anything on the car untill its all fixed. My dealers being a *beep* and I dont want anything biting me on the bum. Car might not tramp once the new diff goes in, if it doesnt ill spend the cash on engine mods. Cant wait for tax... :)

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when my ute was new it never tramped, then the tramp started and over time it has gotten worse and worse....not so bad on the street but the track its just crap...I put it down to the shocks and springs being a bit floged out altho its only got 60kks on the clock....so tramp on a newy is pretty crap...mc donald brothers racing make caltracks but $700 also some decent shocks are meant to help that's what they use on the v8 brut utes but there $800 a pair. king springs super lows are also crap cos they have a thinner top leave compared to the standard it twists up easier to causes the tramp...

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09 FGT ute with ZF @ 30K Kms. Lowered with King Super lows all round and stock shocks..

I haven't had axle tramp once yet.. that includes letting her rip with the traction off... it just slides around nice and smooth...

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when my ute was new it never tramped, then the tramp started and over time it has gotten worse and worse....not so bad on the street but the track its just crap...I put it down to the shocks and springs being a bit floged out altho its only got 60kks on the clock....so tramp on a newy is pretty crap...mc donald brothers racing make caltracks but $700 also some decent shocks are meant to help that's what they use on the v8 brut utes but there $800 a pair. king springs super lows are also crap cos they have a thinner top leave compared to the standard it twists up easier to causes the tramp...

I think you've been poorly informed there - Kings run a reverse eye design that counter acts leaf wind up by keeping the camber in the leaf and lowering the vehicle at the same time.

$800 for a set of bilsteins is pretty extreme too - we manage the Team Ice Breaker racing utes suspension when they are in sydney and I can tell you $800 for a pair of street car shocks is extreme...

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09 FGT ute with ZF @ 30K Kms. Lowered with King Super lows all round and stock shocks..

I haven't had axle tramp once yet.. that includes letting her rip with the traction off... it just slides around nice and smooth...

You had any CV/tailshaft problems with it? I was under the impression the only kit really reliable (meaning not exploding CV's) was the Herrod one. How have the super lows gone for you mate?

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You had any CV/tailshaft problems with it? I was under the impression the only kit really reliable (meaning not exploding CV's) was the Herrod one. How have the super lows gone for you mate?

Heya Deebs,

Originally it had SSL in the front with reset rears (SSL height so I actually raised it to Super Lows. My CV is fine but I don't give it a super hard time, with that I mean I still have fun and wear out the rear tyres, but I don't load the driveline up to ridiculous levels. When you start doing that things will simply break. A mate of mine used to rev his car at 4K and side his foot sideways off the clutch, and then wondered why the axles keep breaking :surrenderwave:

Having said that, I do acknowledge the CV appears to be the weakpoint for the ZF equipped Utes.

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EDIT: sorry double post

Edited by Deebs1990

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Heya Deebs,

Originally it had SSL in the front with reset rears (SSL height so I actually raised it to Super Lows. My CV is fine but I don't give it a super hard time, with that I mean I still have fun and wear out the rear tyres, but I don't load the driveline up to ridiculous levels. When you start doing that things will simply break. A mate of mine used to rev his car at 4K and side his foot sideways off the clutch, and then wondered why the axles keep breaking :dontknow:

Having said that, I do acknowledge the CV appears to be the weakpoint for the ZF equipped Utes.

Thanks for that mate, good to hear yours have held up so far. Out of curiosity how many km's have you done roughly since it was lowered?

Also from what I've read it's not the power that breaks the CV's/Tailshafts it's when the angle is changed the problems arise. Read a few post of guys who were towing or even had a big load in the tub and had it go on them, and their car was stock. But I understand what you mean by not testing out there limits, so to speak.

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Thanks for that mate, good to hear yours have held up so far. Out of curiosity how many km's have you done roughly since it was lowered?

Also from what I've read it's not the power that breaks the CV's/Tailshafts it's when the angle is changed the problems arise. Read a few post of guys who were towing or even had a big load in the tub and had it go on them, and their car was stock. But I understand what you mean by not testing out there limits, so to speak.

I bought the ute at 5300 Kms, it was lowered then and raised it to SL height at about the 20K mark. I do a lot of dirtbiking and camping etc, lots of times it has had 2 full size bikes in the back with gear, still going strong so far :surrenderwave:

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I bought the ute at 5300 Kms, it was lowered then and raised it to SL height at about the 20K mark. I do a lot of dirtbiking and camping etc, lots of times it has had 2 full size bikes in the back with gear, still going strong so far :surrenderwave:

So right now it has super lows on the front and reset leaves at the back. Done about 10k in that state, and you carry a lot of stuff around in it? Seems the newer utes may have been 'fixed/altered' and a stronger CV put in.

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when my ute was new it never tramped, then the tramp started and over time it has gotten worse and worse....not so bad on the street but the track its just crap...I put it down to the shocks and springs being a bit floged out altho its only got 60kks on the clock....so tramp on a newy is pretty crap...mc donald brothers racing make caltracks but $700 also some decent shocks are meant to help that's what they use on the v8 brut utes but there $800 a pair. king springs super lows are also crap cos they have a thinner top leave compared to the standard it twists up easier to causes the tramp...

Ford have underated springs, FG 6T ute load can carry 540Kg as said by Ford (sales guy told me 750kg), my dealer has said I have 500Kg load but my guards rub in driveway at 20000 kms and didn't at 10000 kms (no load change), dealer offered 1 ton shocks (how will this affect ride height) but I asked for reset and extra leaf, sorry we have 1 ton shocks in stock and will do that under warranty but not reset and extra leaf spring. Then was told that to measure ride height dealer will take off canopy, empty ute and see unloaded ride height, yes trying to work through problem but it is my work car. Has anyone had this experiance? Is this a bad dealership, or is Ford correct and a ute rated at 540Kg is shagged within 20000kms carring 500Kg (apparently).

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My new fg f6 tramps quiet alot as well, especially when I use launch on sticky roads like hotmix... im looking at getting tramp rods asap! ive only done 2500kms and it seems to only do it in straight lines and spapping it into second hard.... are there tramp rods avaliable for the fg?

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I was told mine is lowered by pedders with reset rear springs and it's starts to axle tramp until I take another stab at the clutch then it's all just smooth wheelspin :)

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My new fg f6 tramps quiet alot as well, especially when I use launch on sticky roads like hotmix... im looking at getting tramp rods asap! ive only done 2500kms and it seems to only do it in straight lines and spapping it into second hard.... are there tramp rods avaliable for the fg?

yeah mate, pretty sure mal wood does top mounted tramp rods and aussiemusclecars.com sell them as well (low mount)

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Anybody had any luck with this ? Its becoming ridiculous. 438rwkw and still tramping like a trampoline.

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I've had a look at mal woods ute and he says it works well. I'm sick of mine tramping so I'm throwing in a 4 link from carbon art hahaha

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