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#1 OFFLINE   FG-XR6T

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Posted 13 April 2009 - 09:05 PM

Hey Everyone,

I have a FG XR6 TURBO 6 speed manual,

Am thinking about getting a Process west stage 2 cooler and CAI. Also a high flow cath and dump pipe. Then injectors and tune. With these mods ive been told I should get a safe 310 to 320rwkw's? Before I go annoy tuners more will these standard FG turbos hold out at that power? Ive been told they will but I have heard people say there a sh*t unit which has me worried. I have been told that the standard fuel pump will be fine for that power output so no need to change it.

Thanks boys for any help you can give me.

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Posted 13 April 2009 - 09:13 PM

Turbo should be ok, most think it will max at 350rwkw (upper limits).

Fuel pump should be replaced as it is good insurance, obviously the injectors will be replaced, so do the rest of the fuel system accordingly.

THe rest of the system is what will make the difference, let your engine breathe as well as possible and you will get results.

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Posted 13 April 2009 - 10:27 PM

Hey Senna,

I was actually told about not needing the fuel pump from (Simon) Nizpro... at those power levels.... So your saying I should? I am up for all suggestions and my main worry is getting my car running this sort of power then somthing sh*tting its self.

I am in 2 minds sets. I am either thinking of getting Nizpro to do all my work as I have been told there gear and Simons work is fantastic or using some process west gear then getting injectors and tuned by Simon.

My main concern is the exhaust. Do I go out and spend 2Grand for a full system which will get me 320rwkw's or just get a bigger dump and High flow cat for around $800 and leave the rest standard ( possibly remove a muffler for noise or get a hotdog) which then would also be good for 320rwkw's? Will a full system give me a better power curve or is the second option just as effective but cheaper. I thought the FG exhaust flowed good standard bar the CAT?

Thanks Senna for such a quick reply.

All suggestions are welcome

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Posted 13 April 2009 - 11:05 PM

Turbo maxes out at or just under 320rwkw(maybe higher on a high reading dyno).... whether it is safe to run it at this power, some seem to think the compressor wheel will end up in the intercooler...

Your best bang for buck would be to do... turbo, intercooler, injectors, cat dump... - to do it safely.. CAI I would suspect a minimum of a XR8 lower box...

Turbo would be important, after the 300 stage you get about 3-5rwkw per bolt on... compared to 10-15 with turbo mod.

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Posted 13 April 2009 - 11:17 PM

mmmm This is what worries me the ifs about the turbo. whats the costs of a turbo upgrade? 2 g's? I honestly thought according to tuners they were okay for 320rwkw but not much more?

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Posted 13 April 2009 - 11:24 PM

depending on how hardcore you want to go.

cheapest would probably be slapping a ba/bf turbo on...

getting it modded will probably cost about the same.. - depending on config can spool way faster and still make your desired power

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Posted 13 April 2009 - 11:26 PM

Turbo would be important, after the 300 stage you get about 3-5rwkw per bolt on... compared to 10-15 with turbo mod.

can you qualify this? what turbo mod is that who's done it on the fg. have you done any testing yourself?

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Posted 13 April 2009 - 11:31 PM

DJKICE I appreciate all your input but I hope your wrong regarding the turbo. I hope it can hand 310rwkw to 320rwkw safely.......

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Posted 13 April 2009 - 11:33 PM

The max I want out of this car is 320rwkw's... that's anough for a weekend car that will never be going on the track.... that's why I hope I dont have to touch the turbo..... I would rather say 300rwkw to 310rwkw's if that means not having to change turbos.....

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Posted 14 April 2009 - 12:47 AM

6 have been done so far...

most have gone down the path of rebuilding with the T04Z wheel, some have gone down path of a whole BF/BA turbo swap... some just swapped wheel to same as bf...
none of them exceeded 320... 317 being the highest one I know off with a full bolt on kit

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Posted 14 April 2009 - 01:12 AM

didnt you get 335 with exhuast only?

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Posted 14 April 2009 - 01:37 AM

not me?

think your mistaken me for someone else....

I hope I will go well beyond the 335 mark by end of week though.

http://www.fordxr6tu...showtopic=55127

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Posted 14 April 2009 - 02:07 AM

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Edited by tinyplums, 14 April 2009 - 02:15 AM.

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Posted 14 April 2009 - 03:05 AM

oh that other thread was a joke...

tpinto thought I was running 335 when I said I gained 20rwkw from my modified(with tape) hot side pipe...

He thought it was 20kw more than his car.. I meant my car gained 20rwkw from 301...

but anyway.

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Posted 14 April 2009 - 04:26 AM

Hey mate, if 310 to 320rwkw is all your after then you shouldnt need to touch your turbo at all. You will still get quite a decent spool up as well.

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Posted 14 April 2009 - 11:46 AM

Thanks for all your input boys so far....

Yes 310rwkw to 320rwkw is all I want for a weekend street car. As I mentioned it will never be touching the track so apart from a good kick in the guts on a private road everynow and then it wouldnt be getting a floggin....

DJ your Dyno at 302 rwkw was without a cooler and CAI mod correct? Was your turbo at a safe level with that tune? If it was then I imagine with a cooler and CAI mod you would gain around 15rwkw which would not put more strain on the turbo..... ? This is on the assumption that 302 rwkw tune was safe...... there for my ideal power figure is achivable safley? Do you have a standard fuel pump?

Also DJ if you dont mind what is the cost of a commpresor wheel upgrade you had? How much power would that wheel take?

Thanks for all your help guys...

keep it coming.

To much money to just throw into a tip.....

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Posted 14 April 2009 - 12:20 PM

I have a T04z compressor wheel on mine and I get about 420rwkw. That should set you back around $1500 inc labour to remove and refit.

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Posted 14 April 2009 - 12:32 PM

nice figures, you got a build thread or other details on mods.

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Posted 14 April 2009 - 01:26 PM

nice figures, you got a build thread or other details on mods.



Hey, Sorry not sure how to do that but do have some photos and dyno run for vehicle. If you can go to fordforums.com.au and type in autotech aps FG in the search box then you should be able to find it pretty easy. Its a balck FG.

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Posted 14 April 2009 - 04:58 PM

I am sure Spiro also upgraded your turbine too?

Chucking the T04Z on the current FG T would only create lag monstor although flow more air and run more power.

By the looks of your power graphs, it doesnt look like the laggy one I have seen so I am assuming he's done the turbine as well.

$1500 is cheap though so not sure..

FG-XR6T id say allow 1500-2000 to do it... - would be good for upto the 400rwkw mark depending on your config...., probably about 20-30rwkw gain just changing the turbos

Edited by djkice, 14 April 2009 - 05:00 PM.

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Posted 14 April 2009 - 06:57 PM

Thanks everyone for all your help. I iwll see what I can get out of the standard turbo safely and if I dont get what I am hoping for then you all know what I will have to do.

My aim is to get Cooler, CAI, injectors, Bigger Dump and High flow cat and tune with standard turbo. Then if I dont get the power I am after ill upgrade turbo? So you all recomend the the T04Z if I dont get enough power out of this standard turbo?


Sound like a good plan?

Thanks guys, appreciate all help.

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Posted 14 April 2009 - 10:18 PM

id run the FG F6 / BA/BF comp wheel opposed to the T04Z wheel imo

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