RAPHOON Donating Members 1,776 Member For: 20y 9m 22d Posted 08/10/05 05:21 AM Share Posted 08/10/05 05:21 AM It is possible but I wouldn't recommend it.Basically, when you first download the edit, it uploads you factory tune into the box and locks it in. You can have the F slot cleared, but only 5 times before the box has to go back to CAPA/US to be cleared. Therefore, every time you have the F slot cleared, the box looses "a life".Most people flash the factory tune back in before a service, if they still have standard injectors in place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rushed6 Member 137 Member For: 18y 7m 26d Gender: Male Location: Victoria Posted 08/10/05 07:43 AM Share Posted 08/10/05 07:43 AM that has certainly woken me up to stop looking for a second handone and stop being a tight ass in short brand new = no hassles and is they way I am now going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johng001 Member 192 Member For: 19y 11m 13d Location: Melb Posted 08/10/05 08:55 AM Share Posted 08/10/05 08:55 AM Great post bugster, with the price of new units comming down all the time I think new a with custom tune is the way to go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bugster70 Donating Members 1,326 Member For: 18y 11m 16d Location: Canberra Posted 08/10/05 10:54 AM Author Share Posted 08/10/05 10:54 AM One question for you though, can you update the factory tune periodically, if Ford brings out more updated tunes?Thanks for the kind feedback guys, I thought and hoped it'd help a few members out! In answer to your question 81CJH, SIXRT is absolutely right in his comments - uses one of the box's 5 lives each time and has to be sent back to CAPA to be done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XR6T-riffic Member 121 Member For: 19y 11m 21d Location: Penrith NSW Posted 08/10/05 11:44 AM Share Posted 08/10/05 11:44 AM so you need to run a higher octane fuel for non standard maps?just wondering why that is if somebody could clear that bit up for megreat postthanxmark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAPHOON Donating Members 1,776 Member For: 20y 9m 22d Posted 08/10/05 12:51 PM Share Posted 08/10/05 12:51 PM That is correct.You are running higher boost levels and greater timing advance in these tunes, so a higher octane fuel will ensure that the mix goes bang when it's supposed to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bugster70 Donating Members 1,326 Member For: 18y 11m 16d Location: Canberra Posted 08/10/05 01:04 PM Author Share Posted 08/10/05 01:04 PM so you need to run a higher octane fuel for non standard maps?just wondering why that is if somebody could clear that bit up for megreat postthanxmarkIt's definitely advisable, yes. I'm sure someone more knowledgable will come along and give a more detailed/technical explanation, but my understanding is that with the higher boost levels the engine runs hotter and therefore increases the risk of detonation - higher octane fuels are less prone to detonation, in addition to providing more power, etc. Don't quote me on that as I'm not 100% sure I'm right! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dingah2 Crusty aviator Member 846 Member For: 19y 9m 30d Gender: Male Location: ACT Posted 08/10/05 08:40 PM Share Posted 08/10/05 08:40 PM The bottom line is dont plag and play (pray?) and wonder about pinging, octanes and the rest, get the darn thing custom tuned by someone wo understands what they are meddling with. Dingah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
veczar Gold Platinum Member Member 1,081 Member For: 19y 9m 23d Gender: Male Location: Victoria Posted 08/10/05 11:15 PM Share Posted 08/10/05 11:15 PM Yeh thanks (bugster) I wasn't aware that they were locked to a car either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
81CJH Member 204 Member For: 18y 7m 2d Gender: Male Location: Brisvegas Posted 12/10/05 08:48 AM Share Posted 12/10/05 08:48 AM It is possible but I wouldn't recommend it.Basically, when you first download the edit, it uploads you factory tune into the box and locks it in. You can have the F slot cleared, but only 5 times before the box has to go back to CAPA/US to be cleared. Therefore, every time you have the F slot cleared, the box looses "a life".Most people flash the factory tune back in before a service, if they still have standard injectors in place.Thanks for the kind feedback guys, I thought and hoped it'd help a few members out! In answer to your question 81CJH, SIXRT is absolutely right in his comments - uses one of the box's 5 lives each time and has to be sent back to CAPA to be done. <{POST_SNAPBACK}>Ok, so wouldn't that be worth doing? I mean Ford isn't likely to be bringing out an updated tune every 2 months or anything, and it would certainly pay to have the latest update in there when you take it back next service rather than just put back the original factory tune.I'm assuming of course that the dealership will tell you when they've applied an updated tune (at least they did when they reflashed mine at 3000kms).In any case, just so we're all entirely clear, If you were to take your T into your dealership for whatever and they noticed you'd loaded it with a modified tune, they'd wipe your warranty in a heartbeat, yeah?IMO the protection of warranty justifies the usage of "lives".Also just to clarify, SIXRT when you say you can have the F slot cleared, does that mean you can do it yourself, or do you have to take it to someone who has the software to do custom tunes? If you had to take it to someone I guess the inconvenience factor may dictate whether you get it update or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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