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I like it.
sh*t yeah, still a bit wary of authenticity some clever pricks out there, love th front shots, not a big fan of the raked look, maybe I'll have to put some territory springs in the front of mine, LOL
At least I had a current model of car for a day and a half . . . . . .
G Series hey.
Should look great lowered on 20s... dash is very nice
looks pretty tough... but honestly i still think in general the B-series looks better, might think different when we finally see them in the flesh
Will wait to see the FPV range but so far so good, won't be needing to upgrade.
Interior on the XR looks nice but as for the rest, nothing revolutionary on the outside.
Interior on the XR looks nice but as for the rest, nothing revolutionary on the outside.
looks good i reckon,a little bit like a camry in the mid section but the front and back looks hot.
i see they have a turbo ute,is it the same I6 engine?
i thought they finished up wth them
i see they have a turbo ute,is it the same I6 engine?
i thought they finished up wth them
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is it the same I6 engine?
i thought they finished up wth them
i thought they finished up wth them
not until 2010, then the V6 is introduced
I hear its the same motor... there was talk of a smaller turbo though, hope not!
Can someone attach the images from CarAdvice as I cant access the site for some reason.
Cheers
Cheers
This thing better has some revolutionary mechanical advances, because cosmetically it ain't happening. That all new model vibe isn't quite there, not like the VE achieved..
Just checked out drive.com and looked at the drive train vid and the new turbs will have 270kw and 533nm.
xr8 will get 290kw
check it out here
http://media.drive.com.au/?rid=35539
xr8 will get 290kw
check it out here
http://media.drive.com.au/?rid=35539
its 12:15 weres my fpv pics and specs of the new falcon already seen the pics on caradvice looks beutiful
YUM!
This sounds good, can't wait to see what fpv has got to offer.
http://www.drive.com.au/Editorial/ArticleD...p;pg=1&vf=0
The new FG Falcon turbo has a similar output to the FPV Typhoon (270kW/533Nm versus 270kW/550Nm) but improvements to electronics, driveability and the way it transmits the power to the road as well as revisions to the transmissions (including a new six-speed manual). It also has a Formula One-style launch control mode for the manual designed to improve initial acceleration, suggesting a 0-100km/h time of a little over five seconds should be achievable.
http://www.drive.com.au/Editorial/ArticleD...p;pg=1&vf=0
The new FG Falcon turbo has a similar output to the FPV Typhoon (270kW/533Nm versus 270kW/550Nm) but improvements to electronics, driveability and the way it transmits the power to the road as well as revisions to the transmissions (including a new six-speed manual). It also has a Formula One-style launch control mode for the manual designed to improve initial acceleration, suggesting a 0-100km/h time of a little over five seconds should be achievable.
http://www.caradvice.com.au/10359/2008-for...on-first-image/
Suck ya cheeks in and purse ya lips......
Suck ya cheeks in and purse ya lips......
i just lifted these pics from that vid.
the engine has a few external changes,the intake manifold looks to be all plastic,the turbo inlet tract has changed,they reckon its a different turbo but it seems to be a gt35 front wheel and the same .5a/r comp cover the difference must be in the rear wheel/housing
the engine has a few external changes,the intake manifold looks to be all plastic,the turbo inlet tract has changed,they reckon its a different turbo but it seems to be a gt35 front wheel and the same .5a/r comp cover the difference must be in the rear wheel/housing
turbo rotation also point up now instead of down indication a different intercooler system
Direct from Kiwanas All Ford Day, some photos courtesy of Performanc Ford Magazine
Lookin good, ill wait till I see it in the flesh before deciding between BFII F6 Typhoon vs FG F6 Typhoon..
-Drew(sh*tbmxrider) posting on TRBOBF's laptop
Lookin good, ill wait till I see it in the flesh before deciding between BFII F6 Typhoon vs FG F6 Typhoon..
-Drew(sh*tbmxrider) posting on TRBOBF's laptop
piccss are fukd not wrkin for me man
try now....funny how this forum censors sh*tbmxrider as a word, but not as a username
damn i want one of these now!
wow cold air antilag on manual models.
that is revolutionary,it obviously wont work aswell as normal exhaust gas anti lag systems but it will be much easier on the turbo.
now im gonna take one for a test drive just to hear how lumpy it sounds when the antilag kicks in
that is revolutionary,it obviously wont work aswell as normal exhaust gas anti lag systems but it will be much easier on the turbo.
now im gonna take one for a test drive just to hear how lumpy it sounds when the antilag kicks in
I'm loving that dash!!
Looks like FPV have gone with the Racoon front.
I think this will only look ok in some colours
I think this will only look ok in some colours
Love the interior. I suspect this is from the Ghia.
Looks the goods,i reckon
Any mention on FPV models and there specs?
7 FPV models, but no mention of the power or options, aside from botht eh GT and F6 will have a luxo model much like the Force series.
All the info & pics on all models on carpoint.
Here is the link to FG XR6T specs : http://carpoint.com.au/car-review/2893154.aspx
Here is the link to FG XR6T specs : http://carpoint.com.au/car-review/2893154.aspx
PICS Mouth watering....
Damn you Dags....was liking what I was seeing up until that pic 
All i can see is that i'm excited to sell this car! And i'm gonna be the first one at the dealership to test the launch control function!
Want to sell me one? Seriously considering it. I think it looks good and engine seems to be a peach!!
Will it be worth waiting for the FPV though.....
Will it be worth waiting for the FPV though.....
I never thought I would have to you this sentence in my life but 'I like it from behind'
If the changes to the FG Falcon's petrol I6 surprised, the overhaul the I6 Turbo has received in the changeover to the new generation of Ford's large car will have most enthusiasts gob-smacked.
So let's clear one thing up first, the 270kW power output of the new I6 Turbo might match that of FPV's current F6 turbo engine, but that's little more than coincidence. This is an all-together different powerplant.
In concert with the changes wrought on the base engine, the I6 Turbo that will power the newest XR6 Turbo (as well as a long-awaited sporting Fairmont Ghia range-topper), has received a completely new set of plumbing -- on both the intake and exhaust ends of the package. And that's not all -- for the first time, the powerplant gets sophisticated anti-lag infrastructure that promises to deliver stunning performance in the real world, as well as on the dyno.
Developed by Ford Australia's own engineering team, the new I6 Turbo pumps out 270kW at 5250rpm (25kW over the current standard turbo six) while peak torque has increased by 53Nm to 533Nm from 2000-4750rpm. Perhaps the most telling statistic is the fact that over 420Nm is available from 1250rpm through to 5750rpm.
The engine gets the same cylinder-head changes as the naturally-aspirated I6 powerplant, but the entire forced-induction system has been re-engineered.
A new, higher efficiency Garrett turbocharger increases maximum boost from 0.4 to 0.7 bar (around 10psi). The engine gets new high-compression pistons and a more efficient intercooler which, along with new shorter inlet-side manifolds, reduces flow restrictions to combat turbo lag.
The I6 Turbo's all-new exhaust manifold has also been tuned to minimise flow restriction into the turbocharger and optimise the flow balance from cylinder to cylinder.
The redesigned components reduce weight -- the inlet plumbing is 44 per cent lighter while the exhaust side of the equation has shed around a third of its mass. In total the engine is around 10kg lighter.
Says Ford: "The net result of all the turbo system improvements is a significant increase to peak power and torque outputs on the new I6 Turbo engine, along with new levels of engine responsiveness and considerable gains in terms of fuel economy and efficiency."
As noted in our engine overview (see links below) the Turbo's fuel consumption has been reduced 0.6L/100km to 11.7L/100km in preliminary ADR81 testing.
MORE THAN PIPEWORK
But the plumbing alterations are only part of the story. In the development of the new I6 Turbo powerplant, Ford's engineers have taken a leaf out of the likes of Mitsubishi and Subaru's books and incorporated overboost functionality and launch assistance.
In the case of the former, the I6 Turbo's engine management system manipulates the base engine's dual independent variable camshaft timing (DIVCT) to allow the engine to over boost by up to 10 per cent for several seconds at wide open throttle (WOT).
The engine also uses what Ford terms 'adaptive variable camshaft timing' to reduce turbo lag. Two modes are used -- the base in normal driving "to maximise fuel efficiency while still providing maximum power and torque" and the other "adjusts cam angles in real time to minimise turbo lag and maximise engine response," Ford says.
Launch assistance is featured on I6 Turbos matched to Ford's new six-speed manual transmission and is activated when the vehicle is stationary with clutch fully disengaged. In this situation the electronic throttle limits engine revs to a maximum of 3500rpm by cutting fuel which in turn allows the 'cut' cylinders to 'spool' the turbo with cool fresh air. On releasing the clutch, all cylinders are reactivated and full torque is returned.
Ford says the system: "increases available engine torque for more consistent maximum launch acceleration, as well as reducing turbo and exhaust temperatures, and minimising turbo lag and clutch wear."
The company's engineers say the system increases off the line boost levels by around 3psi.
The final performance strategy incorporated in the I6 Turbo's armoury is featured on automatic transmission vehicles -- a cylinder cut-off which is claimed to improved shift timing and refinement.
The cylinder cut shift sequence is completed in approximately 0.25 of a second and reduced WOT shift times by more than 50 per cent, claims Ford. It also "enables better control of turbo boost pressure and smoother application of engine torque" to minimize surge during changes.
Alas, the engine management system has stopped one step short of perfection in terms of current automatic-transmission equipped vehicles... Perhaps we'll see throttle 'blipping' Jaguar XK and XF style on downchanges in the FPV versions of the FG range... Eventually...
higher compression and 10psi for 270kw ain't to great. launch control is interesting.
no blipping of throttle on downshifts is disappointing, fpv might do it but i ain't going to hold my breath.
So let's clear one thing up first, the 270kW power output of the new I6 Turbo might match that of FPV's current F6 turbo engine, but that's little more than coincidence. This is an all-together different powerplant.
In concert with the changes wrought on the base engine, the I6 Turbo that will power the newest XR6 Turbo (as well as a long-awaited sporting Fairmont Ghia range-topper), has received a completely new set of plumbing -- on both the intake and exhaust ends of the package. And that's not all -- for the first time, the powerplant gets sophisticated anti-lag infrastructure that promises to deliver stunning performance in the real world, as well as on the dyno.
Developed by Ford Australia's own engineering team, the new I6 Turbo pumps out 270kW at 5250rpm (25kW over the current standard turbo six) while peak torque has increased by 53Nm to 533Nm from 2000-4750rpm. Perhaps the most telling statistic is the fact that over 420Nm is available from 1250rpm through to 5750rpm.
The engine gets the same cylinder-head changes as the naturally-aspirated I6 powerplant, but the entire forced-induction system has been re-engineered.
A new, higher efficiency Garrett turbocharger increases maximum boost from 0.4 to 0.7 bar (around 10psi). The engine gets new high-compression pistons and a more efficient intercooler which, along with new shorter inlet-side manifolds, reduces flow restrictions to combat turbo lag.
The I6 Turbo's all-new exhaust manifold has also been tuned to minimise flow restriction into the turbocharger and optimise the flow balance from cylinder to cylinder.
The redesigned components reduce weight -- the inlet plumbing is 44 per cent lighter while the exhaust side of the equation has shed around a third of its mass. In total the engine is around 10kg lighter.
Says Ford: "The net result of all the turbo system improvements is a significant increase to peak power and torque outputs on the new I6 Turbo engine, along with new levels of engine responsiveness and considerable gains in terms of fuel economy and efficiency."
As noted in our engine overview (see links below) the Turbo's fuel consumption has been reduced 0.6L/100km to 11.7L/100km in preliminary ADR81 testing.
MORE THAN PIPEWORK
But the plumbing alterations are only part of the story. In the development of the new I6 Turbo powerplant, Ford's engineers have taken a leaf out of the likes of Mitsubishi and Subaru's books and incorporated overboost functionality and launch assistance.
In the case of the former, the I6 Turbo's engine management system manipulates the base engine's dual independent variable camshaft timing (DIVCT) to allow the engine to over boost by up to 10 per cent for several seconds at wide open throttle (WOT).
The engine also uses what Ford terms 'adaptive variable camshaft timing' to reduce turbo lag. Two modes are used -- the base in normal driving "to maximise fuel efficiency while still providing maximum power and torque" and the other "adjusts cam angles in real time to minimise turbo lag and maximise engine response," Ford says.
Launch assistance is featured on I6 Turbos matched to Ford's new six-speed manual transmission and is activated when the vehicle is stationary with clutch fully disengaged. In this situation the electronic throttle limits engine revs to a maximum of 3500rpm by cutting fuel which in turn allows the 'cut' cylinders to 'spool' the turbo with cool fresh air. On releasing the clutch, all cylinders are reactivated and full torque is returned.
Ford says the system: "increases available engine torque for more consistent maximum launch acceleration, as well as reducing turbo and exhaust temperatures, and minimising turbo lag and clutch wear."
The company's engineers say the system increases off the line boost levels by around 3psi.
The final performance strategy incorporated in the I6 Turbo's armoury is featured on automatic transmission vehicles -- a cylinder cut-off which is claimed to improved shift timing and refinement.
The cylinder cut shift sequence is completed in approximately 0.25 of a second and reduced WOT shift times by more than 50 per cent, claims Ford. It also "enables better control of turbo boost pressure and smoother application of engine torque" to minimize surge during changes.
Alas, the engine management system has stopped one step short of perfection in terms of current automatic-transmission equipped vehicles... Perhaps we'll see throttle 'blipping' Jaguar XK and XF style on downchanges in the FPV versions of the FG range... Eventually...
higher compression and 10psi for 270kw ain't to great. launch control is interesting.
no blipping of throttle on downshifts is disappointing, fpv might do it but i ain't going to hold my breath.
Oh Yessss
How tuff are the specs.
Does anyone know if it is using the new Air Bearing design turbo I suggested it would be using months ago.
If it is, it means faster spool ups, hot shut downs wont hurt as testing had been quite substanial with the new design and most of all more power and efficency.
You BA-BF phoon boys/girls will be pretty upset as the new XR6T may leave you sitting in there review.
Dreading the release of the new phoon, how good is it going to be.
Once I get my power over 450 rwkw I would thing Iam going to struggle against a std phoon due to this Launch Control.
Wonder if there will be a way to fit and retune our cars to use Launch control.
How tuff are the specs.
Does anyone know if it is using the new Air Bearing design turbo I suggested it would be using months ago.
If it is, it means faster spool ups, hot shut downs wont hurt as testing had been quite substanial with the new design and most of all more power and efficency.
You BA-BF phoon boys/girls will be pretty upset as the new XR6T may leave you sitting in there review.
Dreading the release of the new phoon, how good is it going to be.
Once I get my power over 450 rwkw I would thing Iam going to struggle against a std phoon due to this Launch Control.
Wonder if there will be a way to fit and retune our cars to use Launch control.
QUOTE(Dagabond @ Feb 17 2008, 02:13 PM) [snapback]635186[/snapback]
Not difficult to debadge it if you don't like the badges there.
ok, so who guessed "FG" as a model designation??? i bloody well didn't!
The best bits....
http://www.caradvice.com.au/10389/2008-for...con-technology/
Got the contract drawn up for me yet Pat???
http://www.caradvice.com.au/10389/2008-for...con-technology/
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This system controls simple functions such as audio which incorporates MP3 functionality and iPod connectivity, along with driver conveniences such as auto-headlamp off, interior light dimming and auto-audio off with driver’s door.
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A multi-function display inset into the cluster delivers a range of information to the driver in their peripheral vision including a large digital speed display, overspeed, odometer, tripmeter, system warnings, audio information and trip computer information.
Cluster settings are stored on the key fob, maintaining preferences for multiple drivers.
Cluster settings are stored on the key fob, maintaining preferences for multiple drivers.
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Set-Point cruise control system on FG Falcon, the MFD shows cruise control status including Cruise On, Set and set Speed, while there is now also a “one touch lane change indicator”.
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Cluster illumination is determined by the ambient light level via an ambient light sensor, independent of the headlight status – it compensates for using headlights during the daytime or travelling through a tunnel.
Got the contract drawn up for me yet Pat???
QUOTE(EZ2CME @ Feb 17 2008, 03:49 PM) [snapback]635206[/snapback]
Not difficult to debadge it if you don't like the badges there.
Lol, I can see it now in the Utes section of the Forum as a sticky;
"Debadging your Ute"
The ute looks no different from the back, apart from those ridiculously oversized badges.
No color ICC on XR's... WTF!
It better be an option!
It better be an option!
From an engineering point of you it is an absolute work of art. So many clever changes to the engines, body and interior and the new Human Machine Interface which allows a whole new degree of interior options. Excellent work.
QUOTE(Adam @ Feb 17 2008, 04:50 PM) [snapback]635224[/snapback]
No color ICC on XR's... WTF!
It better be an option!
It better be an option!
Optional.
Don't worry Tab, as soon as we get the pricing i'll start putting together prices for various models and let everyone know
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