Righto, I have decided to give this a crack.

I currently run a businees based on the Gold Coast called Race Car Leasing, have a look at our website www.racecarleasing.com

I have been a member on here for years & have so far owned 3 XR6 Turbos.

I am going to build an XR6 (or maybe 2) into a typhoon for the purposes of racing the the Australian Performance Car Championship & the Bathurst 12 Hour ( Not tha I think we can win at Bathurst)

What I need to know is what exact differences there are between an BA XR6 turbo & a BF MKII Typhoon.

Thanks

Russ

Dont get me wrong or take this the wrong way.

But why not just buy 2 phoons, if your cashed up?

I think it would probably be alot cheaper to modify a xr6 turbo by installing typhoon engine parts in it rather than purchasing a new typhoon altogether?

Not to mention bumpers etc would be alot cheaper.

Well going by the title he said racing typhoons, i thought he was going to mock it up like a phoon? so body parts would be the same, same price anyway, but i agree a modded T would be cheaper but it aint going to be a typhoon.

They do not have to be a complied Typhoon.

I need to build to Typhoon spec, which is way cheaper than just buying one or 2.

In fact try at least $20,000 per car cheaper.if not more. To me a Typhoon is over priced & to build to that spec in race trim can be done a lot cheaper.

Also building the car is half the battle, having a decent steerer (which I have) is another battle. There are race car drivers & then there are true professionals. Luckily I have probably the best driver available in Qld currently racing for me.

thanks

Russ

i dont have any answers to your questions but good luck with it!!

be sure to post up pics of your progress and let us know when we can watch it on the tv.

i suppose it depends on the power you want, i assume the suspension will be changed, so there goes that difference, wheels and body kit are the big looks thing, you can get typhoon power out of a BA engine quite easily, its just an edit away, the clutch will need changing to a comp spec unit, i'm also assuming that you will strip the interior so what that looks like means nothing, and you'll need good brakes, is there anything else that you need to do?

when you say typhoon spec i assume you are going to change the engine right? not just run 9psi through the ba motor.

dont you also have to use motec for datalogging?

he'll probably have to put a nice baffle in the sump to for track racing, definately an oil cooler

To properly answer these questions we would need to know the regulations of the class.

True, hey Brunks, any feedback for us pal?

Wouldn't it be cheaper to buy a new shell and a totaled xr6T.

wouldnt it also be better to use a BF xr6T motor rather then a BA as these are essentially the same as the typhoon motor are they not?

So, when do I start?

Agreed, the only things different between the BF XR6T and the BF Phoons as i have been made aware of are: bigger Intercooler in the Phoon, extra CAI in the Phoon and a different tune (to run higher PSI etc in the Phoon). Apart from that they are essentially the same car in the BF series.

Oh and aside from the bodykit and other internal "eye candy" differences

Although i would assume you are just going to use one of your currently owned vehicles rather than splash out on a new BF?

There is a bit of a discussion about this on AFF though you need to scroll to the bottom before the answer to the question is discussed in detail: http://www.fordforums.com.au/showthread.ph...es+typhoon+xr6t

In fact a new discussion just started about this topic on AFF right here:

http://www.fordforums.com.au/showthread.php?t=11194991

Not sure if it was by someone in here to gather more info?

Cheers

T

LOL @ Barryblue & MB Junior

I have to basically build to F6 Spec inc diff, gearbox ratios but I can use aftermarket rods & pistons.

Do the BA's & BF's all use the same spec turbo???

The regs etc. are below

http://www.performancecarracing.com.au/com...hip%20Guide.pdf

http://www.performancecarracing.com.au/com...Regulations.pdf

Thanks

Russ

Hey Russ,

Just checked with my mate who was a Ford Mechanic for many years; he said the turbo itself is exactly the same. The main differences are in the ECU as there are a few extra sensors etc (such as checking for overboost, when the boost comes in etc). These changes are also mainly due to the different transmissions (and being that with the ZF, the car is 30 kg heavier so there were some other calibrations necessary to account for this)

Getting back to your question about the turbo itself, as an example, you could quite easily drop a BF turbo into a BA without anymore changes necessary.

He mentioned that most of these racing categories are ECU controlled anyway

Hope this helps,

T

like i said im pretty sure xr6_prod said that you have to run a motec, for the datalogging.

so it would seem that you can modify the exhaust to any extent and you have to maintain factory boost pressure. Im not sure what this is on a phoon, but i think its around 8psi. Edit is permissible, and you may be able to change the inductiojn plumbing, the wording wasnt clear enough... i doubt you can change the intercooler by the wording, and im not sure on the injectors either.

so the question is how much can you get out of a phoon at 8psi and permissible mods?

you need to find out if you can change injectors, and induction plumbing. If you can, youll be able to blow away the competition!

yes the turbo is the same BTW...

the performace gains to be made with these cars (boost pressure aside) is through freeing up the exhaust (which is allowed) and through better induction plumbing like intercooler and the restrictive under battery pipe. Then you can put some more timing into it through the stock ECU edit, which can also alter camshaft timing and everything else if you so desire without modifiying any of the OEM electrical gear (so this is allowed also).

You are allowed to change fuel pumps also with surge tank, but must run stock fuel pressure...so the only piece of the puzzle left is getting more fuel thru the injectors if required at 8psi which i suspect may be your limiting factor. That said the stock injectors are good for around 260rwkw or more if you push em... hang on, i wonder if nispro drilled injectors are allowed!!! arnt they just modded stock injectors??? hmmmm....

russ a mate has 2 full typhoons ready to race for sale call me 0405 400 572