I saw the Performance Car Series at Bathurst today on Channel 7 and there was a blue and white FPV (Typhoon?) running sixth for a while against the Holdrolets and EVOs then it disappeared. Does anyone know anything about this car. It looked quick and was apparently still being developed.

Wish there were more of them to kick those mullet heads butts.

I know the drivers name is James Phillips and apparently Prodrive is helping out with the car..This is his website but it hasnt been updated with his new car yet.
http://www.jpracing.net.au/Home/Home.asp?Ref=6073

yeah sore it too today, thought I heard wrong when the commentator said F6!!! looked like it was going alright till it drop off for some reason.......

I heard from someone who does work for the team, that it is actually the same car that was raced as a GT, but due to rule changes adding more weight to the car and a few engine limiting rules, it was decided to campaigne it as a typhoon and escape some of the disadvantages forced upong them by the rulemakers.

It damaged it's good motor on thursday due to oil surge problems s it was ran on it's back up motor

i can't understand how prodrive, a multi-national, mega advanced company, can't make something like the typhoon quick around a track! They couldn't do it with the Drif6 and now they have trouble with just a track set-up! WTF!

whos running it? Its a privateer team, isn't it? not pro-drive/fpr/fpv/fomoco...

According to the website: "They are transformed through the removal of the interior, the fitment of safety equipment and slick racing tyres, and the minor modification to mechanical components such as suspension, engine management systems and the exhaust. Overall, mechanical changes are kept to a minimum in order to maintain market relevance and limit costs."

So it appears there are some control items that limit what you can do to the cars.

I dont know too much about it but I do know it is a privately run car and it was on debut at Bathurst. With a bit of develpoment it could become a real weapon.

I talked to James Phillips for about 20 mins about his typhoon at Bathurst. He was busy, but a real Nice guy.

He uses SCT tuning software to tune the car, even though their category alows unlimited ECU computer systems.
( He was adjusting the tune between races when i was talking to him) The only ecu changes are the addition to the engine of extra sensors to run the Motec Dash, not the ECU.

The car is a stock Ba frame built from a shell, with Typhoon componentry. The engine must run standard fuel injectors, but the fuel delivery system is upgraded (understandably with a surge tank). The engine has the stock F6 air intake, intercooler, valve springs, intake plenum, turbo and housings etc. Its more stock than most of us on the forums.

The governing body even issue and install a small valve between the inlet manifold and the blow off valve that they take from his car to check the maximum boost level is still standard in the car. I think he said it was a 9 psi maximum.

The car is the most powerful in its class, I think he said depending on the dyno used its about 260rwkw. This was i believe its 1st ever outing.

We should be wishing him well with this. Its good to see someone flying the Turbo 6 Cylinder flag for performance car racing!

McClaren could be preparing the car & it still wouldn't be a front runner at Bathurst.

Blame FPV if you're gonna blame anyone. The V8's & the Evo's have power to weight & the V8's have sh*t loads more HP than the Typhoon.

The turbo F6 is too heavy to compete with the smaller turbo AWD cars & is underpowered for the big long straights at Bathurst. The power to weight basically sux!

Off the line it would be great, but definately get eaten alive by every AWD in the field!

Up & down the hill it simply doesn't have the HP compared to the V8, nor the power to weight of the EVO, especially the one of Mark King which is probably the best handling car in the field & so it should be as King has the experience to set it up.

The choice of weapon in the Performance Car Championship is either an EVO 8/9 or HSV GTS.

I'm thinking of buying a new MY07/MY08 STI to campaign in this series, I'd buy a Typhoon but they simply would not be anywhere as competitive!

Cheers

Russ

The HSVs are only good because the modifications allowed are slanted towards the V8s (particularly the Holdens who get 'special' rules to make them competative).

It just doesn't give a real world example of production car racing. In the real world the Phoons would kick arse in the big barge arse sedan class, while evos and the like would take outright honours.

True production car racing should be standard factory components with allowances for ECU modifications (due to that aspect being almost impossible to police), springs (for safety) and exhausts (not manifolds or headers). And no special rules for different manufacturers (a few years back the RX7s were unbeatable, but rule changes directed at them specifically have made them uncompetative and in most cases slower than a stocker).

Turbo boosting would then be naturally governed by component strength, and we'd be given a more realistic look at what production cars can do.

The commentator ( one of 'em ) was a d!ck.

Kings' Evo was behind the GTS down Conrod, he commented the Evo was getting a 'tow' in the slipstream, and the big hp of the gts was better suited for the track, especially that section and the Evo was only good for corners..

So, King passes the GTS around the bottom of the mountain, and said commentator opens his gob. "He ( King), just won't have the HP to keep in front up mountain straight" King actually level pegs up Mountain straight and keeps his nose in fornt!! Then he pulls out a beauty....... " Now I don't want to harp, but I probably will, wait till the big v8 shows the power advantage down conrod"

So, King pulls AWAY from the GTS down conrod.!! Not another word said!! Biased a$$holes..

I was loving it.. Till he popped a tyre.. :(

If they were purely off the the showroom floor with no mods other than exhaust & suspension, the HSV's would be killing everything around Bathurst!

Put simply they have a huge swept volume advantage over anything Ford has!

Until Ford can produce a 6 Litre 300+ KW machine they will have no chance in thsi format, especially around the Bathurst.

Cheers

Russ

Rubbish. The EVOs and STIs would flog them, and an F6 would give them a shake-up too. Especially if it was just exhaust mods where a turbo's benefits would be far greater than that of a V8. The turbos would also have a huge torque and power to weight advantage.

Mate with the new stronger bottom ends, all FPV would have to do is release a decent R Spec F6, with the boost wound up an few notches. Good bye 6 Lt V8 Muscle. I have loved V8's all my life, would not own a modern day one (Aussie Product), much rather a decent forced induction vehicle anyday.

But I dont think we will see this from FPV, in todays climate with Climate change (Ithink its aload of by the way) such a big agenda, I am suprised that Holden have not copped more flak for still producing them.

My thoughts only.


Scotty

LOL, An F6 has no chance in hell & you have no idea what you're talking about!

All the advantage for torque delivery is from 2000 RPM, they'd never see the advantage in a cicuit race other than getting off the line, which they would be gobbled up by the AWD's anyway!

Anyway you can dream on about it, but the fact is the HSV has the runs on the board & was very strong at Bathurst as you would have seen on TV.

i'm split in this opinion, i think the typhoon would take it to the hsv's in power delivery, but unfortunately our cars are too high and can't hold the same corner speeds as commodores, the EVO is the car to have in that series, plain and simple, it is a road registered tarmac rally weapon

What I saw was a little 2l, 4cyl EVO giving the modified HSVs a spanking until it had a flat. It is you who is dreaming.

Considering the Holdens are allowed to run strengthened gearboxes and diffs (because the standard ones aren't up to racing), as well as unlimited ECU mods (turbos are restricted on boost), and all other in the field have to run standard running gear, I'd say there's not much that would'nt give them a decent run given a level playing field.

Holdens been given all the chances of winning, they put more weight in the evos and they still kill everything. face it they are a natural weapon, built to be a streetable tarmac rally car. I think with more devolpment the F6 will be more competitive next year